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2008
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Location:

Erie,CO,

Member Since:

Jan 01, 2008

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Unknown

Running Accomplishments:

Pikes Ascent: 2:37.x

Pikes Marathon 4:32:x

Do PRs count if they are older than 10 years?

Short-Term Running Goals:

Preparing for Pikes 08

Long-Term Running Goals:

Run lots of mountains and passes, the Grand Canyon, and the Burro Race World Championships

Personal:

I have nine toes for the same reason Paul McMullen has eight

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Mid afternoon - 6 miles easy, 46 minutes. Felt good. Not sore. My ankles were a little stiff, but then they loosened up. Couple of hours later -5 miles, 37:38. Again, easy and felt good, maybe a touch flat. It was a bit chilly out. Just an easy day, with some easy mileage, under gray skies in Boulder County, and dreams of warmer days to come.

It is pretty crazy to read my logs from last year and see just exactly how much mountain stuff I was doing. I was wholly in belief that would change the runner I was and make me strong on the hills. I think it helped, but it was, in the snow, so little focused on the actual running that I think I lost fitness. And that mentality carried over into the summer. I focused on the mountains ALL the time. I think the right balance of this focus is key for me - a balanace between hills and flat running.
The pic today is one of my favorite from PPA 2007. It has 2006 champ Simon G and 2007 runner up and 8 time champ Scott E on Ruxton. Simon trains a lot on the flats, but then does some key workouts on hills. Everyone who does well at Pikes ultimately is a good fast flat runner too. They just have an uphill problem. True, there are those uphill specialists, but they are more the exception than the rule.

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Comments
From Jon on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 12:04:01

I've always run trails but am just starting trail racing this year. Any words of wisdom to share? What kind of times do you do on Pikes Peak? Just curious, do you live in CO?

From George on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 17:43:27

John

I live in Colorado, just outside of Boulder. I have only done Pikes twice (the Ascent once, the marathon once) with results that are the low end of fair for that race, but ones I think I can improve on.

As far as words of wisdom, you'd be better served getting them from someone who is wise in the sport - Matt Carpenter. I am still learning a lot! Matt's book on running Pikes is the definitive guide in this area. http://www.skyrunner.com/guide/index.htm

That said ... this is running - there are no secrets! If you want do well on trails, run long, run hard, run often - and train on trails long, hard and often.

Jon - your 5K time goal is nearly the split you expect to run for a 10K. How are you figuring that?

From Jon on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 20:18:56

I grew up in Littleton, so am always glad to see more people from Colorado on the blog. I'll look at skyrunner.com- thanks.

I was curious what you were saying about balancing roads versus trails. Trails are slower but help you run trails better, while road can help you run faster. You made it sound as though you neglected the speed last year and suffered. I was looking for any insight into that area of training.

My goals up there are actually a joke, aimed at Monaflash and Cody (that is why I put "run 8 days per week")- I was just one-upping them. I need to put real goals up. Although my 10k PR right now is at a faster pace per mile than my 5k PR, mainly cause I haven't really raced a 5k since high school (and don't plan to, either). The longer the distance, the better I am at racing it.

From George on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 20:27:45

Hey Jon

Next time you are out in Colorado, let's hook for a run.

Yeah - last year, I really dug into the mountains. And there was some good to that. I had been a track and road runner and really did not know much about the wonderful trails just to the west of me. I ran those hills A LOT. I good a lot of good work out of it, and it gave me a nice place to check out for a bit.

But it cost me some speed, I think. Given the choice between a track workout and a 3000 foot climb, I took the climb EVERY time. I knew I was losing a step, but I did not think it would be that big of a deal.

I think a good balance is the key. There are those that can get away with just doing one type of the training, but they are more the exception than the rule.

At this point in my training, I am focusing on two things: getting the speed back and the long run. I want to drill my 5K and 10K time down a bit here through the spring - while balancing that with a good long run. I won't ignore the hills or the trails, but they will be a secondary focus - particularly now since they are socked in with a lot of snow and ice. As spring progresses, I will incorporate more of the hill runs and tough climbs. To be sure that I am also able to manage the length of Pikes, I am making the long run a "bread and butter" workout each week (or more weeks than not).

What trail races are you looking to do?

GZ

From Jon on Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 02:38:11

Just a few local ones- Logan Peak trail run (26 miles, 14k elevation change), plus the Park City runs (Jupiter steeplechase, park city half marathon, mid mountain marathon).

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