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Location:

Erie,CO,

Member Since:

Jan 01, 2008

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Unknown

Running Accomplishments:

Pikes Ascent: 2:37.x

Pikes Marathon 4:32:x

Do PRs count if they are older than 10 years?

Short-Term Running Goals:

Preparing for Pikes 08

Long-Term Running Goals:

Run lots of mountains and passes, the Grand Canyon, and the Burro Race World Championships

Personal:

I have nine toes for the same reason Paul McMullen has eight

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
849.8034.009.0032.50925.30
Night Sleep Time: 41.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 41.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.003.0013.00

I was not on top of it, and I knew it from the start - but decided to make a go of it anyway. After a 2 mile warmup (>15), I did 3 miles with 3 minutes rest (at 5mph, so a quarter jog) at about 5:30 to 5:35. None were outright killer, but I did not feel strong. It may be the cold that I am fighting (fwiw, I was sweating like it was a GA summer in the basement). This brought me to 5.5 in 43:40, and so I finished it off with 7.5 in 55 for 13 in 98:40. Not stellar, but I was glad to push through it given my state.

Night Sleep Time: 7.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

got out in the afternoon with Lucho. From his place, we ran east through Anthem, and then back. I went a bit light on the clothes - I was dying to get into shorts after running with three or four layers all last week. Towards the end of the run (the last 35 minutes actually) I was starting to feel it - in fact, I am defrosting now in front of the fire. We finished the loop in 1:45 and change.

Night Sleep Time: 7.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

A bit tired today from the effort on Tuesday and the good run yesterday. Went easy the whole way to recover. 38 out, 40 back on the plowed sidewalks of Louisville.

Night Sleep Time: 8.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

AM - I did not sleep real well, mostly because I am blowing out this cold. I got out in the AM and was a lightly sore in the quads, and did an easy seven. The roads are a bit of a mess - a combination of packed ice, snow, slush and water. My street looks like the end of some melting glacier. Most of the sidewalks are clear though. I told my wife the streets are of the consistency of a half hour old margarita (am I showing a desire there?).

PM - My daughter was at a birthday party and so I ran from the Flatirons Mall (ick) out to 128 and south on Simms, scoping the new office route. Windy - there is a front blowing in. Easy 40 minutes, 5 miles. Looks like there will be some decent hills out there.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.007.000.003.0010.00

I wanted to get a tempo in today. As it was sloppy out (melting snow, but still lots of packed ice), and windy (comes with the warmer temps), I hit the treadmill. I have ambitions to get this workout back to the SBC trail. There I will head out (and slightly up) at a slightly slower than 10K pace for 3 or 4 miles, and then come back slightly faster then 10K pace for 3 or 4 miles. When I was doing this a few years ago, it was effective in teaching me to control the effort on the front end and push the effort on the backend. Unfortunately, as I get more fit, I have historically become better equipped to execute poorly. When I am out of shape (or less in shape) I am forced in executing to whatever I am capable of. When I am in better shape, I have this tendency to go out to fast.


In any case, I had aspirations to jump on the mill and bang out six with the first three at six minute pace, and then build from there. Simply, I am not there yet. I could give a dozen excuses, but I am not there yet. That is a bit frustrating, but it is what is. And the good news is that I have progress from where I was last month. I can feel that I am progressing and digging in, it is just not as quick as I like - even though it is steady progress.

I opened with a warm up mile of 7:30, quick bio break (back up the stairs) and then 6:00, 5:57, 5:53. I found it hard to dig into this - similar to the workout earlier this week. It was not overly hard, but I was not strong, or as strong as I would like. My HR was floating in the mid 170s for this. It was not super labored, but not easy and so I backed off here - 6:53, 6:59, and then I ramped it up a notch. The HR had dropped into the 150s, and then I ramped it back to float at 160. It climbed a bit over the run to 163. 6:49, 7:06, 7:06, 6:30. I was not paying attention to the pace in particular after the three but playing with it to keep it solid and keep the HR near 160. This run turned around in just under 67 (about). Again, nothing to brag about, but progress from where I was even a month ago. It is coming. Slowly. But coming

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.000.000.000.0015.00

I felt I had a fair week of training - one where I advanced fitness rather than maintaining or losing it. I wanted to get a longer effort in though and so landed on a 2 hour run today. I kept the whole thing easy. The mileage might be higher than 15, but there were a couple of stretches where I was clanking through snow or mud. I headed east, through Vista Ridge, around the landfill, out by the HS, back by the new Rec Center. I need to do more of these longer runs - making them a steady part of the training diet, simply because they are a bit of a weakness for ... maybe more in my head than anything else. I never struggled outright physically, but I find it to be a bit of work to run out there by myself for two hours. As I have said, "work to do." Again, it was a decent work for me: I'll give it a B. Mon - 3 miles in the cold in Fairplay Tues - 13 miles, with mile repeats Wed - 14 miles with Lucho Thurs - easy 10 miles Fri - 10 miles, with 3 miles tempo Sat - AM 7 miles, PM 5 miles Sun - 2 hours easy, 15 miles 77 miles on the week, 2 "fair" workouts, a 2 hour run, and a mid - longish run at a better clip. I guess the mileage is decent in light of the fact I had a three on Monday. Next week I will look to do a 5K test in the Oatmeal Fest. I want to get a check to see if fitness has advanced, and if so, by how much. I will look to balance the work with a speed workout earlier in the week. The plan calls for quarters, but I may adjust that to eights depending on the weather (and if I am forced to the mill). I have to do thinking about how I want to balance the rest of the week, and still get other good stuff in. I am toying with the idea of a daily food log. I think it would be interesting to put that out there, to write down what I am eating, see how it compares to what I want to eat, how it effects training, the entire caloric input thing. It just seems to damn tedious to write that all down.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

75 minutes, 10 miles, easy. I thought I'd feel a little tired from the longer run yesterday but I bounced back fine. Once I was rolling, everything felt good. Started for about 17 minutes before hooking up with MK in Boulder (light snow falling), and we went for 38 minutes. Tacked on another 20 min to wrap it up.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.500.000.002.509.00

2.5 mile warm up over to Monarch track from the office. This was one of those days where I could feel I was a bit off, and was concerned with how the workout would go anyway. Mentally, I was focusing in on a problem at work, and it was gnawing at me in a way that I could feel that was making me edgy. Should I separate these efforts and thoughts? Yes. Do I have discipline to do that? Not totally. I still did the workout, but I could feel that I was a not fully in the game even in the warm-up. In fact, I think that is a bit reflective of how I have felt on some of these workouts for a bit: I am getting in there and doing something to advance or maintain fitness, but I am having issue in getting that break through, dig in, kill it type workout. Today it might have been work, or the long run on Sunday that caused it (but that was not so much the case over break I guess).




I started with 2 x 200 to open up the legs a bit (36s) and then did the 400s which all came in at 75-76, except the last was at 73 high. I then did 2 more 200s (3 minute rest after the 400s, and then 2 minutes after the first 200) in 34. I got to keep after this workout. I could write about what I used to do all day - I am here now and I can do something about it (and something will happen whether I choose to do something or not). I once had a little bit of speed. And I let it go. I can't make that mistake again. I used to be able to get this workout (8 x 400, 1 minute rest) with the 400s all under 70, and some of them even as low as 66 or 65. Not today. Ah, you reap what you sow. The good news is that there seems to be some improvement in the general speed since the 200-200-400 workout from last month




Warmed down for 3.5 miles. Total was nine on the day over the course of about 75 minutes.

Night Sleep Time: 19.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 19.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

I felt a bit sluggish - no surprise given the workout yesterday. Did an easy hour (8) on a gray, humid, cold Colorado day. I will look to do a workout tomorrow that taxes my cardiovascular system but does not kill my legs too much. I'd like to be able to bounce back well for the 5K on Saturday.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.002.0011.00

I ran Sanitas today, wanting a tempo effort, and something that would tax me cardiovascularly but not sap my legs. I want to come back and run the Oatmeal Fest 5K as a test to see where I have come (or gone) since Thanksgiving.

Sanitas is a nice little compact climb. 15-20 minute and you are done. I think I have done this in the 17s, but in referencing the log from last year, I can only find that I did it as quick as 18:38. Today, I went into it carefully, at a tempo mentality. When I saw where I was at when the watch hit 18, I figured I could make a go to break 20 and did with a 19:56. It was a little icy on the upper half, and this did cause some slipping. I got a good little burn in the end, but I have to say, this was one of the best workouts I have felt in a bit. It was controlled, but a solid push. I felt that I could dig in a bit. So all good. The downhill was a bit more of a trick - it actually took 15:17 to come down. I was not looking to fly down but I had to be careful with all that dang ice!

After all this, I ran into downtown and ran with MK for a chunk. As has come commonplace with my runs with MK - we shared great conversation. MK is my brother - we connect so easily. I can tell you a million things about MK - all you need to know is he my brother. Today's conversation was a mix of discussion on his high school coach (killed while running at the age of 39 by a car), our families, the caloric bank account, current training (this section is mostly about me because while MK runs right now, he will tell you himself - he is not training), blogs, the 'Rock, and workouts we used to do that seemed normal at the time that seem out of reach (but they ain't) now.
Round trip today was 90 minutes, 11 miles.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Race: Oatmeal Festival 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:17:44, Place overall: 14, Place in age division: 4
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

Short story: 17:44. Longer story ... This is about as local of a race as I can get. Yes, of course, there is the Eeire Erie but that is actually farther away than this race. I had contemplated jogging over to the race as a warm-up, but brought the car to have a place to stow gear.

It was a cool morning (high twenties) but with cash on the line, this race still brought out a good number of local folks, including Clint Wells, Pete Remien, etc. I was treated with visits from JV, PM from the office, and my family - all who came out to watch the race. I always have a goofy feeling about folks watching races. I wonder why they want to do that. They see a start of a race, then they see folks return some time later lathered up with sweat, slobber, feelings of anguish painted across their face. Why would anyone want to watch that? Then again, I am guy who was super stoked to sit at 14000 feet and watch folks finish the Pikes Peak ascent. It is great to have family and friends out there.

I warmed up for two miles with a couple of strides at the start. I did not feel super hot but I did not feel bad either. We got out a bit quick. Isn't that always the case? I mentally tried to get myself to settle about a minute in as we climbed up to the west. I tried to settle in, focus on picking up people, and moving through those that blasted out that should not have. At this time, , not even a quater mile in, fellow Fleet Feet racer, Hans F, went by me. I had no idea what kind of shape he was in so I let him go. We did a little leg to the south with a downhill and he built the gap on me. As we turned onto the west bound street to head out to Waneka Lake, I could see people begining to come back to me. I picked up a couple. Through the climb though, I could tell I was not really having a great day. The plan was to go out relaxed, pick it up and then push. I felt like I had been pushing from 3 minutes in. At the top of Waneka Lake, Doug Bell passed me. He was running really great and I think he went on to catch and beat Hans. He really dug through those last miles. Coming out of Waneka Lake, I noticed a 3K sign my watch was at 10:44 at that point (so that is about 3:35 pace per kilo). We began the long downhill, and while I enjoyed picking up folks, and reeling them in, the opposite held true here. A younger guy I was near pulled away significantly. I managed 7 minutes for the last 2 kilos, and it was a bit of a struggle in the last couple of minutes. All this landed me 14th, and a supposed 4th in the 30-39 age division.

Okay, so what does all this mean? I remember that MK once told me that the difference between a bad and a good 5K was 15 seconds. Hmm. I wanted 17:30 today and got 17:44. Okay, so I did not feel great and I had an off day. Still I have improved from a month ago. Not nearly as much as I would have liked to at this baseline, but it is forward progress nonetheless. As of today, I am 17:44. I may not like it, I may not understand totally how I got here, but I know where I am and where I want to be. That will be the driver. Right now I wear the tatoo of 17:44.
I took a seven mile warm down (11 on the day) and thought about this for a bit. I probably took being in sub 17 shape for granted too much. It was not easy for me to get there and I think once I did, I was able to ride some maintenance work that let me stay there for a bit. The training I did over the past year though shifted all that, and I have lost it. For me to get it back will require a consistent shift to drive to that position.
 
To that end, I think one of the keys to getting there was doing something like this nearly every week. Back when I was running in the late 90s with the BRR, every Sunday's supposed tempo run was really a deep gut check. You could call it a race, and in fact, I joked when we hit the diagonal, you could almost here a gun crack. Not every week was an all out effort, but more were close to going to the well than not. My tempo's today rarely are like that. Again, I am not advocating that I race, or simulate a race every weekend, but I need to get to a spot with my tempos that are more often going deep than just hitting that 90 percent mark. Today served that purpose. It left me worked and hence in better condition then before the race. I need to do that more.

At this point, with this new baseline data, the training will revolve around three core pieces - the long run, the tempo run (see above) and speedwork (faster than 5K work). I am willing to step away from the mountain work in part for a bit to get this element to a place where I feel more satisfied with it.  So, all in all ... good. Progress even though I feel bad. New baseline. Clearer insight. Good gut check. Work to be done. Some other highlights from the day:


  1. We are all sitting at the start ready to go. Everyone has that nervous twitch. The announcer says it is going to be about two minutes to the start. So, everyone strides out. I jog over to my family to say hello. My son freaks out - "DAD! GO! THEY ARE ALL GOING!"


  2. Jogging with Lucho after the race. Discussing stride cadence he says to me, "No offense but dude, your stride sucks." He has a point. His turnover goes around 190 a minute. Mine is nearer to 170. I am not sure this is a silver bullet in getting me a minute faster on the 5K, but I will definitely work it.


  3. Lucho is definitely a student of the sport. He and I traded memory stories of various track and field world championships during the warm down.


  4. JV located materials for a wobble board he wants to build while he ran with me during my warm up. And yes, he went and did Green when this was over.


  5. PM had a Geico Caveman visor.

  6. Lucho saying, "I won today more for third place then I did for 13th at Kona." I don't care who you are, that is jacked up.

Results are up.

Oh yeah ... diet for today ...
AM breakfast - bananna, 2 cups of coffee w/ milk and no cal sweetner
Post race -some juice (about 16oz), and an Odwalla bar
Lunch - about 4 small handfuls of almonds, a small salad w/advocado and it. dressing. Cup of tea. 
I guess I could skour the internet"s" to find out how many cals that is but ... it is tedious.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Comments
From josse on Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 13:14:09

Great job! some tough competition for a local race.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 14:45:39

I never take one 5 K time at face value without a course/condition adjustments. Even when it is the exact same course, I always take it with a grain of salt. I do look though where I place relative to consistent competition and use that to judge my 5 K fitness.

From Dustin on Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 15:02:29

I've never read your blog before George, but great job on the race. I enjoy finding people from Colorado on here. I grew up in Craig and actually ran with Clint Wells in high school.

From George on Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 18:06:16

Josse, Sasha, Dustin

Thanks for the feedback all!

Local races in Boulder County are tough. There was a little prize money with this one so that amped the front competition.

I placed a bit behind some of folks I used to beat. Not totally unexpected, as I have had more of a mountain focus for the last 18 months. I just need to get some leg turnover back.

Next time any of you are in Colorado - Boulder area - let's hook up for some mileage.

georgezack.blogspot.com

From Lybi on Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 18:17:33

Great job George! I thought you put up that big time at the top because you were so proud of it. Seems like a smokin' time to me! It'll be fun to see what happens as the season warms up--I'm sure super low temps like this have to slow you down some. Sounds like you're really focussed. Good luck with your training.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
17.000.000.000.0017.00

I agreed to meet Lucho this AM. He was doing 20 something (22 I think) and I wanted to build up my long run (15 last week) - so we agreed to share some miles. I think I get a bit more of benefit out of this run than he does - as it pushes me to run 5-15 seconds a mile faster than I normally would, and it helps me through the miles. We met on 287 and headed north as the sun rose. It was cold - there were icicles on Lucho's beard.

Lucho did not hesistate to "get in my face" this AM. He immediately was asking me about my half tights (in 20 degrees), and my water. Within half a mile of running together he was asking me why I carrying water, what fuel, and essentially - what the hell I was thinking.

He is right. I do a lot of stuff without thinking it through. And some of that I think is okay. Just run damn it. And I think in my 20s and for 10Ks I probably could away with that to some degree. But I am now doing a marathon, and by some definitions an ultra. Hydration is important. Nutrition is important. Thinking is important. Sure, maybe running in half tights is okay but I probably need to carry more water on these runs (and hence a camel back even it feels stupid). All said, I am getting more benefit out of these runs than I think TL is from me. I appreciate his questioning of what I am doing - because I need to consider and reconsider what I am doing so that I drive to maximum efficiency.

I slowed up on the second half of the run, as my heart rate climbed (lack of water perhaps Zack?!). But it was a good effort of 17 miles (or so) over 2:08. I felt pretty good throughout, just slightly tired in the last half an hour.

It was a good week. I will give it a B.
Mon - 10 miles easy
Tues - 9 miles with 2 x 200, 8 x 400, 2 X 200
Wed - easy 8 miles
Thurs - 11 miles - 20 minute tempo on Sanitas
Fri - easy 7 miles
Sat - 12 miles, 5K Oatmeal Fest - 17:44
Sun - 17 miles - long run
74 miles on the week, with 4 fair workouts. On whole I think fitness progressed.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

Mid day I got out with co-worker DB and did an easy seven (55 minutes). At the close of the day I got out for an other five (36:40). Purpose of these runs was a.) to recover and go easy, b.) play with my stride rate. I did a few stride rate counts and they all came in around 88 strides a minute (single leg). And this was with me thinking about it, meaning it was up. I would occasionally let it slip to what I was more atuned to and comfortable with and that was much slower. The pace on whole would not change (I think) but the stride length would open up. I am going to keep on working on getting the legs turned over. I think TL mentioned it should be north of 90 strides a minute. It does not physically hurt to increase the cadence, but it feels different. It is funny, SE mentioned to me about a year ago that I needed to not have such a loping stride. We did Lindens and I remember matching my stride to his to work on this but then I let it go. I guess I respond better to feedback like Lucho's: "dude, no offense but your stride SUCKS." Yeah, I am a little dense. I felt a little flat today, but overall good, particularly in light of the fact I raced Saturday, and then went long yesterday. I am hoping to jump the track tomorrow to get 200-200-400 workout in - as snow is expected on Wednesday. Quote of the day came from co-worker PM today, "....after about 7 or 8 hours out there on course...everything is stripped away...there's nothing to hide behide any more, no ego, no cockyness, no pride, no work problems, or relationship things...it's all gone and all that is left is you. It's scary, too scary for a lot of folks. But that's also the reward. You experience every emotion out there." There is a lot of things I love about endurance sports: the training, the race, the competition, but ultimately what I love most is the rawness of the humanity it presents. As William Wallace says, "we all die. few of us live."

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.004.0010.00

Ah yes. Write up about motivation on Monday ... you are certain to give yourself the whammy on Tuesday. It was one of those days where I felt a bit off from the bell. I woke up and this snot was coming out of my head. My stomach hurt a bit, and my head felt thick. In the old days, I'd call this a hangover. Unfortunately, I did not engage in any activity Monday night that would give me such an excuse.

I had hoped to engage in the 200-200-400 workout today to get good turnover. I wanted to get it done today, well, to get it done and because we are expecting snow tomorrow. As is often the case, however, before our Front Range snow storms we get a day of warmer temps (50s) and a stiff wind. From my desk, I could see trees bending in the wind. The wind gnawed at my motivation. The woozy feeling in my head gnawed at my motivation. This becomes a bit of a downward spiral typically. To not worry about my upcoming run, I try to focus on my work, but then I let my work become my event and suddenly I am too busy to run and then that further gnaws at my motivation. I don't feel good. It is really windy out. You have a lot of work to do.

After seeing big pieces of trash roll by in the lot across the street from the office, I decided that I would run on the treadmill. At least there I'd not have the wind for an excuse. But even after getting home it took me a bit to get to it ... check email, long time to lace up the shoes, check email again (I do have a lot of work to do you see), take a phone call, feed the dog ... all avoiding getting on the dang T5i.

I had a good chat with a co-worker (TWK), including some conversation about his running. I am really enjoying digging into what other folks are doing for running. I am trying to take special care in listening to what they are doing simply because a.) typically as a runner you are thinking a lot about what you are doing and b.) while I think a lot about what I am doing I really don't know what the hell I am doing and I probably can learn something from listening rather than telling folks what I am doing. It was this conversation and the entire thought that the three folks (well, okay 2) that read this blog would have some possible interest in how this workout went. And I did not want to write that I felt like and called it all off. So the blog, at least today, helped.

But even once on the mill, I delayed. I took a longer warm-up (3 miles, 21 minutes, first mile in 7:30, last mile with some striders to get HR up and used to the faster pace) - delaying the workout itself. I was not dreading working hard, as much as I was dreading results of working hard and not getting through it well. I decided to do half mile repeats. I can't really do 200s or 400s at the pace I want to on the mill, so I decided I do halves at 5 minutes per mile pace (2:30 for the half) and take a real easy quarter rest. In the spirit of focusing on the turnover, I decided to worry more about the repeat and not push the interval of rest (taking there whatever I needed).

I did 8 of the 800s - all at 5 minute pace (2:30) with the rest being anywhere from 2:00 minutes (8 m/mile) to 3 minutes (12 m/mile). HR for the latter repeats was near 175. None of these felt particularly hard or strained - I felt in control and on top of the workout the entire top - which suprised me considering how negative my attitude was coming in! I feel I could have rolled more with anyone interval or even done a couple more. The effort was solid. I know it is a treadmill and that is not the same thing as doing it on the track but it was good nonetheless. Things are coming through. I did some cadence counts during the repeats, and then later my daughter did some. They came in at 88-90. The higher cadence felt much more natural in the repeat on the treadmill than it did on the easy run yesterday. I finished out the run in 68 minutes and decided it was okay to reward myself with a glass of Merlot with dinner.

So, not the workout I wanted to do ... but a good effort in light of how I felt, and the weather.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

Went easy in the cold (teens, and yes I wore pants) ... 8 miles, 63 minutes up on the Davidson Mesa.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

12 easy miles. 90 minutes. It is cold. And a bit windy. And the wind has a good bite. I have mixed thoughts while running on days like these. There are the thoughts of, "mighst all critey ... it is cold and windy out here. This stinks. I rather be sitting next to a fire having a beer." And then there are thoughts of "7 months to go. And at least I am out here. There are folks that who want to be and can't."

I have felt a bit behind the eight ball the last two days. Behind in my running, behind in my thinking, behind in my sleep, behind in my hydration, behind in my eating (which means I am probably ahead), just behind ... I am not really. But in a regard I am.

We went to the National Western Stock Show last night and we caught the bull riding show. All I can say is that folks who think running up Pikes is stupid must think these folks are truly whackey. And crazy tough. And I complain about running being tough? Hardly.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.004.000.000.0011.00

Snow was spitting this afternoon and I did not want to deal with it. I got on the mill with the objective of getting a tempo run in. After a 4 mile warm up (7:30, 7:17, 7:08, 6:32 - strides in the last to get used to the faster paces to come), I moved into a four mile tempo (5:50, 5:55, 5:35, 5:37). I closed up with a 3 mile cool down (20:20). (all told 11 miles, just under 73 minutes).


The treadmill is an interesting device. Mentally, there are days that I find it ... challenging. You are not outright physically sufferring but you are working, and, umm ... not going anywhere. And you keep seeing the clock. And the miles. Tick. Tick. Physically, I think in some regards it is easier because - as TG has often said to me - you just need to keep up with the thing. But you sweat like you are in a sauna. Obviously, nothing is as good as getting out there and getting after it - but there are days, like today that the control of the mill is the better of the alternatives (freezing your tootsy off in the snow).
Today was a workout that went, well, okay. I find that I don't walk away from the treadmill thinking, "YEAH, I killed that S**T!" I get decent workouts, but it is not over the top. My HR gets up, I sweat a lot, I get something accomplished, but it is more a workout of mental focus versus physical. Quarters on the track are probably at the other end of the spectrum. You don't need to think too hard - they are only one lap each! But physically, they sap you after two thirds into the workout.
I had a conversation with TWK about nutrition today. He is prepping for a two hour run and was considering what to take on the run. We discussed a bit how Lucho was in my kitchen last week about being in shorts and only having a sixteen ounce water bottle. I hardly profess to have the hydration and the nutrition thing down but I think I am trying to work in this direction: for runs on cooler days, I probably won't take anything if the run is less than ninety minutes. For efforts longer than that, and on hotter days, I will look to adjust accordingly. This will also probably be true of gel consumption but I want to talk to some folks about this. The LetsRun crowd scoffs at triathletes and ultrarunners - which is plain stupid. The folks know the nutrition - hydration thing where typical runners don't (and don't need to if you are running a 10k or shorter under 50 minutes). I am also aiming to get a gallon of water in me a day. I am increasingly convinced that I am chronically dehydrated. Even when I get hydrated, two hours later I am looking at a yellow stream. And hell, I don't want a kidney stone. Oh yeah, I do also like to eat a little something on the morning of long runs ... but it does mean I get up earlier than 20 minutes before the run. I like to have a piece of toast, cup of coffee ... maybe a bananna. Again - I hardly have this nutrition thing figured out. And as long as I am talking in a paragraph with no clear direction, I will also look to play with some sort of electrolyte tab, like s-caps, on some of my longer runs.
Feedback always welcome.

 

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I wanted to get my long run done and so did it today rather than waiting until tomorrow. I started outside - mostly to get the dogs out. After 8.5 outside, easy, (64 minutes), I came in, quickly changed and hit the mill. I had the mill all set to go - even with several water bottles (with a little lemonade mix in it) and tried to build into this effort. The thought here was to have a good long run, and build slightly, in effort and speed towards the end. I did 8.6 (I wanted to be sure I had 17) in just over an hour (total time 2:04:39). I was not flying at the end obviously, but pushing enough to get my HR up over 160 (and was under sevens).

... various thoughts and commentary ...

  • I think having the hydration readily available for the second half was helpful. I worked through two 16 ounce bottles pretty quickly, as I had made it an objective to take some drink every five minutes whether I wanted it or not. I felt good throughout this effort. My legs are not super springy, in fact - I can feel that they are a bit worked but I am not "under my training."
  • I think I ought to be able to get my mileage to near 80 this week. Over the last seven days, it is now 87 (the bookend long runs help). This is good - I want this level of consistency with mileage, but I need to be careful not to chase mileage for mileage sake. The importance is in the workouts, particularly the long run ...
  • Once I get re-acclimated to the length of time of the long run, I want these efforts to be building, and pushing towards the end. Reference this McMillan article regarding this. I will look for help on some of these efforts ... running the first hour easy, and then enlisting help to get a good long push for the second hour plus, as the spring progresses.
  • I was thinking on my run today that a good deal of this blog may come across as "complaining" about training. I have certainly been complaining about the cold. And then I complain about having to run on the mill. Really - when it comes down to it, I know that I am blessed that I can engage on this journey. I have a gift to move significant distances under my own power, and I will look to exploit that gift to its greatest depths. I love that I can do that.
  • Many religions teach, you must walk your own path. The principles in the faith are the same, but it is your path to find your way. Running has principles, each of us has to find our own path to whatever we want to accomplish with that. It is your path to determine to what lengths you will sacrifice, what goals you will set, what talents you have, what balance you acheive ... worrying about that this person runs 8 minutes per mile when training versus 6 minutes per mile ... well, there may be a place for that, but only if it is something you put in your path.
  • The greater mileage and slight more attention to detail regarding my diet are having an effect. I am down at least 10 pounds since returning from Hawaii. Of course, I gained nine pounds when I was there! I am not going to worry too much about my weight, but instead take a focus on fitness, health, and smart consideration of how those are factors in weight and its effect on performance.
  • I played with MapMyRun a bit this AM. The bad news is my seven mile loop from work is about .05 short. The good news is my eleven mile out and back is about .9 long. My 3 mile out and back is .04 short. Give a little, get a little. I am actually surprised I was as close in guessing as I thought. Very cool tool.
  • I am also cross posting my training to georgezack.fastrunningblog.com. Not sure if I will continue to use this, but I am a technology geek, so love playing with this sort of stuff.
  • Props to TWK - who nailed a good long run today.
  • Good luck to PM who is racing tomorrow.

Catching up on training logs from "one year ago today ..." It is pretty clear I was definitely more hill focused. That was not bad. I just think that being less hill focused for me right now (not excluding hills though) is better this year. It is also clear that January is historically a cold month. :-)

Sunday January 14, 2007 13.3 miles (will count as 13) in 2:34 (hit 13 in 2:32). Cold and snowy out so got on the mill and watched “House of the Flying Daggers.” Set it at 11.5% (miles 1 and 8 were at 12 percent, last two miles were at 11%) Splits were 12:59, 12:58, 12:21, 12:01, 13:03, 12:01, 11:48, 10:51, 11:46, 11:27, 10:40, 10:13, 9:47 (and then 2:00 for the last .3). Felt easy, nice slow burn throughout but no straining. This also represents over 7800 feet of climbing in a run.

Comment from today - interesting! I was thinking about this very workout. It is an emulation workout that I do - emulating Pikes! I altered this workout later in the year to be more like Pikes in that I altered the grades at different points to be more Pikes like. I do want to do this workout again - but not at this time. It is a dang good workout, but, as you can see, it does not promote speed. It promotes hill climbing. I want the speed and will combine that with the hill climbing as the spring progresses.

Saturday January 13 2007 It is freaking cold out – zero. In the AM got out with Lucy for 30 and then tacked on another 45. Kept the pace upbeat to assure this was 10 over 75.
Friday January 12 2007 AM, 28 minutes, 4 miles on the mill. Pretty cold out.
PM cold enough to freeze my beard. Did 35 minutes solo and then 45 minutes with MK in Boulder real easy. 81 minutes but calling it only 10 because of conditions.
Thursday January 11, 2007 early PM, very cold out so I stuck to the mill. Did a 1.5 mile warm up in 10 minutes then 3 x 1 mile with increases in pace on the minutes in the miles with a 3 minute/ .25 mile rest in between. Warmed down with 2.25 miles for 7 total in 50 minutes.
Wednesday January 10 2007 – 88 minutes, 8 miles. Got out with JV up Bear via Shannahan Ridge and Fern trail. Lots of sloppy snow towards the bottom. It hardened up near the top but then the wind was really blowing above the saddle. The top was gorgeous all encrusted in snow and like a stairway to heaven. 55 minutes up and 33 minutes down (although I kept falling down and I took the longer route down towards the end!)
Tuesday January 9 2007 After a lousy night sleep and a long day in the office with out of town visitors, got on to the mill. Did a two mile warm up in 13:30 with four striders to loosen up. Then did 5 x 3 min on with a 2 min break. Started at 10.8mph on the first and would up it a tenth every minute, and also start at the next higher (10.9 for example) on the next one. Rests were real slow (12 m/mi). So these started at 5:33, and got down to 5:10 towards the end. On the fifth I upped the pace every 30 seconds versus every minute. Warmed down with 1.5 miles at the end to get a total of seven in 49 minutes Mileage is a bit behind this week (only 12) but I am okay with that. I need a bit of rest and a bit of turn over and weeks where I do that a bit more than just miles and climbing have be okay in my head.

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Comments
From Dave Holt on Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 18:27:53

Good long run. I have found that the make or break of a long run for me is the hydration factor you referenced.

From George on Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 20:49:36

Thanks Dave.

I have long ignored hydration. It was not even really a choice ... I just never gave it much thought. Just plain ignorance. I'd drink post a run, knowing that I had to hydrate but never give a thought to running 2 hours without a water bottle. Stupid, I realize ... and a minor shift I am making to get a bit more "unf" out of longer runs now.

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Not suprisingly, I felt stale this AM. I did an easy 10 (80 minutes). And yup, it is cold enough that the facial hair (it is not a beard, it ain't a mustache) was frosted over. I tried to focus a bit on turnover ... still coming in at 88.

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From dave holt on Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 21:12:36

It is interesting that today you mention turn-over. That is another thing I have really worked on this past year - even to the point that on my summer afternoon runs on the treadmill I had a metronome clicking to help me establish the rythm. The most effective thing however, was barefoot grass striders on a slight decline. Working with these tools I increased my stride rate from 84 to 87. Hopefully I can get this slow gate sped up to close to 90 someday!

From George on Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 21:39:00

Dave - I get the 88s when I am thinking about it on slow runs. They seems to come a bit more easily on harder workouts (I have had my daughter count when I am doing intervals on the mill and it is right at 88). I think when I am not paying attention it will drift down to 83 or even lower :(

Sounds like you are atuned it - listen to: http://www.triathletemag.com/Assets/Podcasts/Triathlete_Mag_Podcast_Jan15_2008.mp3

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I had visions of doing Green today as a good easy effort. I know it sounds a bit contradictory to say that a 2500 foot climb to 8000 feet is easy, but they can be. Just gear back and grind a long slow climb. But the snow and the cold (teens) chased the idea out of my head.

I landed on doing something on the mill. I did not feel ready for a strong interval effort and geared into the idea of a longer run where I just upped the ante of my pace. I'd hesitate to call this a tempo (although by some definitions it might be ... as my heart rate stuck in the 160-170 for the latter portions of it) - rather this run was just a mid distance run where I wanted to run a stead state, and push the pace a bit to become more comfortable in that range. After a bit of a warmup for 3 miles (7:26, 7:15 {14:41}, 6:55 {21:36}), I began to gear down a bit to see how it felt. 6:03 {27:40}, 6:17 {33:56}, 6:15 {40:12}, 6:07 {46:20}, 6:09 {52:28}, 5:57 {58:25}, and 5:53 {64:18}. The effort felt all controlled - never was I anywhere near redlining, all just somewhere about comfort pace.

I realize this ain't much, but it represents some progress to me - and I will take it. I'd like to generally see the overall pace of my runs increase. I need to be careful to balance these sorts of efforts between easy days and hard days (as this is a bit of tweener). I am walking away from this one though thinking I am fully capable of coming back hard tomorrow. We'll see!

Props to PM for his 10 miler yesterday. Good work man - you are progressing. Tough conditions and it is January!

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I felt off today. And this sort of ticked me off. I wanted to feel good. I did not want to feel off because that might mean that I was off because of the effort yesterday. Really, I did not want to have a "tweener" workout yesterday that in turn compromised my effort today. This is a bit of a trap I need to be careful of ... instead of keeping easy days, easy - and hard days hard, the trap is to run all the days in between ... and hard days are not so hard and easy days are not so easy. That does not lend to getting better. And so, I knew in part that my effort was not super hard yesterday and it was not super easy. So I had compromised what I could do today. But I did not want to admit it. Nonetheless, I was hesistant to get out because I knew I'd have to face this reality that I was off because I pushed yesterday but not enough.

But I felt off in other ways, not just from the run. I am dealing with a stomach muscle pain that is slowing me down. I slept like crud. It was cold out. And windy. So I had the excuses lined up in addition to my tactical error from yesterday. I hit the mill again in the afternoon. This too played into my mental state. I did not want to run on the mill again.

But, as things are, as I dug into the mill and the run a bit I stopped feeling sorry for myself and decided to make something of it. I knew I was not fully able to attack this run, but I was not going to just run easy. Maybe this was a tactical mistake too - but mentally, I needed to do something to keep driving progress in my head. So after a four mile warm up (7:15s), I jumped into a classic Carpenter interval workout - 1 minute on, 1 minute off. I did 15 of these at 5 minute per mile pace (I really need to determine how I can crank the mill into kilometer paces) and the rests at 8 minute per mile. The initial intervals brought my HR up to about 160 and then the rest would teeter down to 147. Towards the end, the HR would climb to 168, and then the rest would come in at 150-155. I did not feel strained on any of these, but I knew I was not on top of my game. I did some pace counts for 30 second on the repeats, and these came in at 45-46 (or 90-92 on the minute).

I finished the 10 with a mile cool down, for total time in 66:40.

This is certainly not as good as the workout I did last week with the 800s at 5 minute pace, but it was something. And it worked the turn over a bit. Tommorow I will rest (easy mileage) to get back into a smarter groove.

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Went real easy up and down Green today. It was a bit chilly, but not as cold as it has been for the past couple of days. Round trip is seven miles. I went real slow, just enjoying being out. The snow - ice - crunchy - slippery conditions kept me slow as well. It was fun getting out ... in the woods, on the hill ... unfortunately there was that big old brown cloud to look at when I got to the summit. I am a bit concerned about this abdominal pain I have been having. Not sure what it is, but am hoping it disapates in the next day or two. Definitely felt it more on the way down today.

From the next day ... There were a couple of other thoughts I had on my easy run yesterday that I wanted to get down ... in my charting this experiment of one.

First, on this easy run, with significant climbing, my stride rate went way down (like 75). I am less concerned about my stride rate on my easy easy runs but I can see how this sort of work makes that a habit - it contributes to a lower stride rate all the time if I do this alot. I will want to make sure that when I go after this run hard that I keep the rate quick. It is funny how dense I have been on this topic. Hill climbing specialist SE tried to tell me this while doing Lindens last year. Master miler PH has often told me that I need "to get them down." Mentally I thought about this a little. It was not until Lucho said, "dude, your stride sucks!" that I actually took the concept to heart.

Second, I am not sure what strained my abdominal - but I am pretty nervous about it: is it a hernia?! It seems a little better today but I need to keep an eye (?!) on that.

Finally, it was good to get off the mill yesterday. The mill is a good tool but it is a drill on my head. When I am on it, I am consistently playing the game of upping the speed, and then downing it. This is good on some accounts (7:20s feel hard? crank the pace to 6:00 for a bit, then bring it back to 7:08 and that feels good), but when you run nowhere (literally), it is a bit like water boarding. Kerrie told me I need to get outside after my workout on Tuesday ... she was right.

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There are days in winter when you can smell spring coming. You know it is still winter, but somewhere under there, you can smell, hear, feel spring. And it feels good. You know there still be days where the wind bites and your fingers feel like they are going to fall off, but ... it is coming. Today was one of those days. Temps hit the 40s in the afternoon, and for once, with little wind.
And in my own regard, I could smell my own spring coming. While I am still significantly slower in speed than I was a few years ago, I could feel, smell and hear some "spring" coming out.

I did the 200-200-400 workout (200 on, 200 recovery, 200 on, 200 recovery, 400 on, 400 recovery ... each set is a mile and I did five sets). I last did this workout in December. I decided early to not worry about the rests at all, and instead to focus on the turnover of the workout - and the speed in the repeats. My abdominal pain had subsided a bit today (let's say yesterday it was a 5, today it was a 2). I could feel it a bit in my gut when I was on the repeat, but it was not greatly hindering me. When I last did a track speed workout, I was doing 36 on the 200s and 75s on the 400s. Today, I managed 34s-35s on the 200s and 71 mid on the 400s. I tried to focus on turnover, running tall, moving well but not straining. I could smell a bit of the speed coming back (for me). I certainly have work to still do in this area but this is nice progress. I did a few stride counts during a couple of the quarters and it was coming in at or near 50 (significantly different than slower runs!).

Full run was 10 over 80 minutes (2.5 warmup, 2.5 warm down)

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The winds are back. Those snow eatin' Chinook winds made their return to the Front Range today. I am glad it was an easy day. I got a sixer in easy (46+ minutes) up on the Davidson Mesa (the winds here were really strong - a few gusts did that thing to me where you are just stood up, are swinging your arms like are running but you are not really moving) and then joined MK for six a bit later. I was not sore from yesterday, but a touch stiff.  Tomorrow will be easy as well ... with the goal of a long building run on Sunday.

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I got out early with Lucy and got in an easy six (46). The winds were pretty strong still. Later in the evening, I got onto the mill and did an easy five (36:30).

It looks like the winds have passed now. That being the case, I will look to do a long run tomorrow. I have been playing with the thought of doing a good portion of it on the mill so that I can keep the hydration under control. If I get the opportunity, however, I will head outside and do loops that let me get to water periodically. Ideally, I will build the pace through the run.

In Boulder today, there was
a pretty good race, particularly when you consider the nuttiness of the wind. It was good to see Lucho do pretty well against that field. Several of the FF guys (Pliska, Ames, Funke) ran well in the masters division. Props to TWK for a good long run today too.

This interesting list (top 1000+ marathon times in 2007, US, Men) were posted today.

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My long run came unravelled today. I had thoughts of going 18+ with it being a building effort. It turned out to be 13+ with the effort slowing over the run.


I been down this road enough that I know when a workout is going to go south before it actually does. Some might say with thoughts like that I am setting up for a frame of mind that is not geared for success. There might be some truth to that, but it might also be true that I just know myself in this arena. I tried to get around it - had the gear laid out, the water bottles all set, and heck, the weather was even good. But once the legs started moving down the road, I could smell the burning oil. But even then, I told myself not to sweat it - see how it felt after two miles. Well, see how it feels after the first loop. Well, just run two hours. Finally, I think better judgment kicked in I decided to not do battle today, because I wasn't going to win anything anyway. No need for a morale victory here.
The weather was beautiful though. I had hoped to hit three loops of 6+, with each loop being a bit quicker than the last. The advantage of hitting it in a loop fashion would be that I'd be able to water up, and maybe even get some nutrition on each leg. After I finished the first leg in 50, I knew I was not doing great. Nonetheless, I gimped out for the second leg (I took some Nuun on the break, I held that down okay), throughout it thinking how maybe I just do 2 hours and call it a day. But at 80 minutes, I was pretty waxed and knew I needed to call it a day. The second loop proved it - it was at 51 and it felt harder than that.
All is not lost though. This serves as an opportunity for me to consider what went wrong and what went right. On whole, I had a pretty decent training week (call it a B-), with two solid runs at the front end of the week, a good speed workout on Thursday and fair mileage (73). I have been a bit off all week though on little things: my diet has not been bad but has not had the same degree of focus as prior weeks, my abdominal wall hurts, and I have not done any core in a bit (in part because of the gut). Soooo, to address that, I will - I need to - keep a food log next week. I have avoided this because of the tedium associated with it, but I need to see if there is a relationship between specific things I eat and performance. I mean, I know there is, but I need to track it at that more detailed level. I will schedule a physical (with lab work) re: general health, but also to address the ab issue. And I will do some core anyway, but stuff that does not strain the lower abs.
Other side notes ... I reparied my Suunto x9i watch USB cable (with pieces of paper clips) and so was able to charge it. The GPS read on this run was 7 miles plus per loop (twice, for each loop). I have suspected this run to be close to seven miles but mapmyrun puts it at 6.74 miles. Okay, maybe I am being anal about a quarter mile here or there but ... well, it makes a difference, doesn't it? I guess that means that even though I was feeling like crud, I was still running 7:30s (vs. the 8s I was doing last month on easy runs where I felt good). I like the Suunto, since it has a GPS, a compass, a barometer, and a thermometer (and it tells time), but it is a bit of a hassle to get the sats synched in before the run.
Next week ... I am going to make the long run the event of the week. I want to come back and put this particular run to bed. Nonetheless, I will continue to focus on getting speed back and so will also look to get to the track to do quarters. Additionally, I need to get some striders in ... I have been skipping that a bit too much.
I was at the park with my son today and he did some running with our dog. I was watching him ... poor guy has no knee lift (reminds me of an ugly guy related and living in the same house as him). But he has that explosiveness that we have when we are that age. It is neat to see him in that Spring of his life, with a set of gifts he does know he has and hence does not really appreciate. And why should he? When it is spring, we don't think about the dog days of summer, or the winter that is coming later in the year. Instead, we enjoy those flowers right then and there. Me, I am in the Indian Summer. Or I am trying to be ... staving off the Autumnal equinox for as long as I can ...

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I still feel a bit off today - mostly it seems like I am a bit achey and sore, like in the connective tissue - and that mostly in my gimp foot tendons. Nonetheless, the weather was nice, so I had to take advantage. I did an easy 11 miles out to Boulder and back from the office. There was a slight headwind out, and hills back, so it was nearly even on the splits (near 7:30 m/mile).


I got my Skull Candy ear buds today. They are great. I have long had the classic IPOD buds falling out of my ears and so I have reverted to hats, head warmers, t-shirt sleeves, etc to get buds that would stay in. After I read about these on a local tri guy's blog, I was sold. They actually perform better than the regular buds in terms of sound. Since they are in my ears better, I don't have to crank up some of the softer dubbed podcasts to hear the interviews over traffic.
I will look to do something hard tomorrow, and then come back for the long run on Thursday. I am having dental work done Thursday afternoon and so I am doubtful that I will get a ton of great work done in the weekend when my jaw is aching.

 

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Comments
From josse on Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 23:53:14

I tried the skull candy ear buds in a marathon once and was pushing them back in the whole time. I am still on the look out for some that work for me.

From George on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 18:27:56

Even with the largest mylar covers and if you push them way in?

From josse on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 18:29:19

The largeest ones are to big and the medium are to small, I think I need costum one made;)

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AM - real easy four miles with Lucy. Just a little shakeout, wake up, get the dog out.

PM - pressed for time after work, and before heading out ... wanted to get a workout in, and it was pretty windy out again today (30 mph gusts). Hit the mill. I did not feel great, so I decided to tempo it, and the thought that bubbled up was 7 in 45 with the warm up. I hit the first in 7, three in 20, four in 26:0x, five in 32:0x, and then seven in 43:40. Again, I can get into the mill a bit easier than I can outdoors right now, but I can't seem to tap in as deep to make myself hurt there. In some regards, this was good for not feeling great ... I hit the last four under 23:40, when four on the mill was a struggle a few weeks ago. Here's the trick - crank the mill to faster speeds (5:20 for example) for like a minute and then back it off. The overall pace, obviously, is better, and then you can manage the slower pace (at least initially) more effectively.

Easy tomorrow, long on Thursday is the plan.

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I got out for an easy eight on the Davidson Mesa today.  By the time I had got out, a little snow had begun to fall.  At the end of my run, it was really flying.  I tried to run easy, but at the same time at an honest pace.
 
I had thoughts of going long tomorrow - and I will still look to do that.  But with a bunch of new white stuff down, I am probably going to look to do it on the treadmill.  While I don't mind running in the snow, I don't want to deal with any unnecessary risk on a long run.  A couple of years ago, I was running in the snow, slipped off the edge of the sidewalk lip and my grizzle sang loud.  I thought I may have actually popped that old tendon that keeps the back of the foot moving.  Oh well, at least being inside will make sure that I manage the hydration well.
 
But I do want to get off the mill.  I know it is getting me to train, focus, and I am getting some benefit from it.  But I also realize that mill running is  different and until I do some of these workouts outside, it just is showing that I can run nowhere in my basement.
 
My mind was all over the place in my run today on my training.  I am about two months back into digging into my training.  I am wanting to see more results, but I also know that it takes about three months of anything to really see results.  I feel more focused than I have been in a long time, but that also shows me where I am lacking (core exercise for example, but hey - the gut muscle felt a bit better today).  I feel like I am doing what I need to for success later this year, but then I feel I am hardly doing enough (particularly when I consider Lucho's log - that is true marathon training).  I wonder if I will be able to get back into a fair semblance of fitness (for me).  And if I can't then do I still say screw it, and chase it more (because I don't want to give up, give in, ever) or do I resign to wondering why I did not attack it more when I was younger?  I won't give up, because there is no damn good reason for me to.  As long as I can do this, I will.  Even if I am slower.  I am training hard for me ... but I want more.  I get up from my chair at work, and I gimp.  People ask me what the hell is wrong with me and I give my standard answer:  "Put your foot in a lawnmower once and you'll never walk straight again."    That is part of it, but I would not be walking this way if I was not running this way.  But I run this way so that I can run this way. 
 
Tomorrow, we get out there.  The farther you go, the farther you go.

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.000.000.000.0020.00

I have a dental appointment this afternoon that I am expecting to take a couple of hours, and to leave me a bit sore.  Additionally, I might sneak to ABC (altitude base camp) this weekend with the kids to do some skiing.  So, all that said, I wanted to get my long run in before I had the excuse of being at 10000 feet, and a sore jaw.  There is fresh snow outside, so I decided to get on the mill for this workout.  While I do feel I need to do a good long run outside (the mill is just different), being on the mill did allow me the opportunity to manage the hydration, the pace and watch HR through the run.
 
I ate a litte for breakfast before this run - a blonde brownie and some PB.  Okay, yeah, that is crap for a diet, but the "cookie" aspect seems to work well for me.  I digest it well, it gets me some sugars, and it tastes good.
 
I got on the mill with the intent of keeping it all very relaxed for the first half of the run, and then building on the effort (and hence the pace) throughout the run.  Initially, I had thought I do 18, but then I figured 20 would be a "nicer" number to post in the log.  I made sure to take water every five or so minutes.  I started at 8.1 (7:24) pace and kept it there for the first five miles, and then began to slowly ratchet the pace up.  Over the last five miles, I upped it much more aggressively (as the splits show below).  I was fine from an effort perspective the first fifteen.  It all felt very easy, and I entertained myself by watching a movie on the DVD.  My HR hovered in the sub 150 to 150 range for the first ten, it climbed to the 155 area through 15 and then it was pushing north of 160, to 170 over the last five.  The last five were not super hard, but did require some focus.
 
1.) 7:27
2.) 7:24 (14:51)
3.) 7:25 (21:26)
4.) 7:24 (29:40)
5.) 7:25 (37:04)
6.) 7:18 (44:23)
7.) 7:20 (51:43)
8.) 7:19 (59:02)
9.) 7:17 (1:06:19)
10.) 7:13 (1:13:32)
11.) 7:11 (1:20:44)
12.) 7:08 (1:27:52)
13.) 7:03 (1:34:56)
14.) 7:03 (1:41:59)
15.) 6:58 (1:48:57)
16.) 6:57 (1:55:54)
17.) 6:45 (2:02:39)
18.) 6:38 (2:09:17)
19.) 6:25 (2:15:42)
20.) 6:02 (2:21:44)
 
At no time did I ever go over the top in the run. 
 
More later.  I have been having a conversation with Lucho re: HR, LT, etc.  But now I need to go get numbed up in the mouth.

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Comments
From Dave Holt on Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 15:32:08

Great long run. Are you over in Co?

From jtshad on Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 17:17:34

Ouch, 20M on a treadmill? That is torture!

From George on Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 18:27:17

Yes, I am in Colorado, just outside of Boulder.

I know that 20 on the mill seems like torture but ... well, it is a bit of a mental thing. I used to hate hate hate the treadmill. I still don't like it, but it is a tool for training. There is something about it that, once you get your head around it, is actually easier than training outdoors. You can manage the pace perfectly. You have no excuses for hydration. I can't have imagined doing this long of a run on a treadmill 2 years ago ... but given the alternative of not doing the long run - I took the tool and used it. I am not saying this is "mental strength" because I don't beleive it is ... it is just getting there in your head ... like any other workout indoors or out. I am glad I have a treadmill where I can take the opportunity.

Live it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.000.000.0011.00

Mid afternoon - 6 miles easy, 46 minutes. Felt good. Not sore. My ankles were a little stiff, but then they loosened up. Couple of hours later -5 miles, 37:38. Again, easy and felt good, maybe a touch flat. It was a bit chilly out. Just an easy day, with some easy mileage, under gray skies in Boulder County, and dreams of warmer days to come.

It is pretty crazy to read my logs from last year and see just exactly how much mountain stuff I was doing. I was wholly in belief that would change the runner I was and make me strong on the hills. I think it helped, but it was, in the snow, so little focused on the actual running that I think I lost fitness. And that mentality carried over into the summer. I focused on the mountains ALL the time. I think the right balance of this focus is key for me - a balanace between hills and flat running.
The pic today is one of my favorite from PPA 2007. It has 2006 champ Simon G and 2007 runner up and 8 time champ Scott E on Ruxton. Simon trains a lot on the flats, but then does some key workouts on hills. Everyone who does well at Pikes ultimately is a good fast flat runner too. They just have an uphill problem. True, there are those uphill specialists, but they are more the exception than the rule.

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Comments
From Jon on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 12:04:01

I've always run trails but am just starting trail racing this year. Any words of wisdom to share? What kind of times do you do on Pikes Peak? Just curious, do you live in CO?

From George on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 17:43:27

John

I live in Colorado, just outside of Boulder. I have only done Pikes twice (the Ascent once, the marathon once) with results that are the low end of fair for that race, but ones I think I can improve on.

As far as words of wisdom, you'd be better served getting them from someone who is wise in the sport - Matt Carpenter. I am still learning a lot! Matt's book on running Pikes is the definitive guide in this area. http://www.skyrunner.com/guide/index.htm

That said ... this is running - there are no secrets! If you want do well on trails, run long, run hard, run often - and train on trails long, hard and often.

Jon - your 5K time goal is nearly the split you expect to run for a 10K. How are you figuring that?

From Jon on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 20:18:56

I grew up in Littleton, so am always glad to see more people from Colorado on the blog. I'll look at skyrunner.com- thanks.

I was curious what you were saying about balancing roads versus trails. Trails are slower but help you run trails better, while road can help you run faster. You made it sound as though you neglected the speed last year and suffered. I was looking for any insight into that area of training.

My goals up there are actually a joke, aimed at Monaflash and Cody (that is why I put "run 8 days per week")- I was just one-upping them. I need to put real goals up. Although my 10k PR right now is at a faster pace per mile than my 5k PR, mainly cause I haven't really raced a 5k since high school (and don't plan to, either). The longer the distance, the better I am at racing it.

From George on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 20:27:45

Hey Jon

Next time you are out in Colorado, let's hook for a run.

Yeah - last year, I really dug into the mountains. And there was some good to that. I had been a track and road runner and really did not know much about the wonderful trails just to the west of me. I ran those hills A LOT. I good a lot of good work out of it, and it gave me a nice place to check out for a bit.

But it cost me some speed, I think. Given the choice between a track workout and a 3000 foot climb, I took the climb EVERY time. I knew I was losing a step, but I did not think it would be that big of a deal.

I think a good balance is the key. There are those that can get away with just doing one type of the training, but they are more the exception than the rule.

At this point in my training, I am focusing on two things: getting the speed back and the long run. I want to drill my 5K and 10K time down a bit here through the spring - while balancing that with a good long run. I won't ignore the hills or the trails, but they will be a secondary focus - particularly now since they are socked in with a lot of snow and ice. As spring progresses, I will incorporate more of the hill runs and tough climbs. To be sure that I am also able to manage the length of Pikes, I am making the long run a "bread and butter" workout each week (or more weeks than not).

What trail races are you looking to do?

GZ

From Jon on Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 02:38:11

Just a few local ones- Logan Peak trail run (26 miles, 14k elevation change), plus the Park City runs (Jupiter steeplechase, park city half marathon, mid mountain marathon).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

Various other necessary activities took hold of most of the day and as a result I did not get out until about sunset. I ran so called "steady state" (or what I have called easy plus in the past) on the out and back 10. Out, 34:32, back, 33:52 (I picked up the last 90 seconds). I felt good. I also feel that I am getting back into some form of shape that I was ... well, sometime ago.  I felt good, but I feel that I am learning, in some way, how to run quicker again, rather than it just coming into fitness.

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.003.0010.00

I got Lucy out for a four miles (she is insanely strong, I ran four miles during this but she easily ran at least six as I was throwing the frisbee for her while running) and then quickly changed and got on the mill. I wanted some turn over and so I did 17 x 1 minute on, 1 minute off. Why 17? Because I was done when I got there. Really, I needed to be finished to get out with the kids for a bit. 10 miles in 68. The minutes on were at 5 m/m pace and the off minutes were 8 m/m pace. Stride counts were hitting 44-46 - so I think that is improving. My lower abs are still a touch sore, and I am not sure why - but I have suspected the treadmill! I think I might pull it a bit funny when I hit the front end of the deck (overstride onto the part that does not move). My gimp foot Ach. is a bit sore, but that is what you get for putting your foot in a lawnmower.

It was a good week. 80+ miles. 584 minutes.

M - 10 +, easy
T - 4, 7 w/ tempo run (treadmill)
W - 8e
T- 20, building (treadmill)
F - 6e, 5e
S - 10 steady state
S - 10 miles, 17 x 1 min on 1 min off

Next week I'd like to get a solid track workout in, do another good long run (but I might back off the distance a hair or two) and see if I can sneak a few other runs in to up the overall mileage. That said, I might shift things up and jump in a 5K race to get a quick status check. I feel good. I am starting to realize the benefits of this last two months - I am turning a corner. I still have a lot of work to do, but it is good to start to feel some of the benefits.

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.000.000.0011.00

AM - easy with Lucy, 3 miles 23 minutes PM - snowing again, and I felt particularly wimpy so I hit the mill. 8 miles with HR right at 145 or under in 58.

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12.000.000.000.0012.00

Today was just off.  Work spiraled a bit bigger today, I felt a little scattered, I did not feel so hot and I had family stuff to tend to in the evening, and so I was bookending a lot of little runs.  These little runs are so little, I wonder if they are worth anything more than just me feeling good that I got something in.  AM - four miles outside with Lucy, post work - four miles before catching up with my family, and then four more on the mill before going to bed.  These late night runs are not really fun.  Post dinner, at the end of a long day ... they are just icky.  But, this day is done. 

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.002.000.0011.00

I joined up with PM for some running today.  PM is one of those people that have significant mental issues.  In other words, he is training for the Ironman Triathlon.  The only folks with greater problems are those nut cases who do ultras. 
 
Anyway ...
 
PM had a pretty specific track workout he wanted to do.  I knew I wanted to do some speed but not sure exactly what I wanted to do on the track, and decided that I zero in that when I saw the conditions of the track, determined how felt, scoped out the weather, justified the position of the stars, checked my blood pressure, and checked with the Dali Lama.  I am glad I did.  It was near 20, if that, when we got to the track and there were several sections blown in with snow and ice.  And their was a nice wind from the north.  All the while, we could see a cloud socking in Boulder (indicating snow) as we watched from MHS track.  PM, nonetheless, attacked his repeats, most of them from lane seven.
 
Me?  I did not want to have much to do with the nuttiness of the ice, snow, and wind and so I turned this into a pick up and fartlek run, jumping in with PM to "help" him through some of the repeats, but mostly focusing on pickups to get some good turn over.  On whole, I ran for about 100 minutes, but I am guessing it was only about 11 miles. 
 
It was good to run with somebody.  PM and I chatted on PED's in endurance sports, masters (or old guy) training, multiphasic approaches, etc.  PM - your dedication showed today, doing a track workout in that snot was tough!  Keep up the good work and you will have your break out. 

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

I have talked with TG about a concept of fitness spiraling up, and fitness spiraling down. You like your fitness to be on a consistent uptick, or spiraling up, but, you might have ticks where there are slight downward spirals even in those longer term upswings. In school, we called this dynamic metastable equilibrium, but we don't need to get into such Thorson geomorphology concepts here.
 
I have been in a bit of a down spiral the last couple of days. It does not start with any one particular event, but for the sake of discussing it, let's say it has been my work. My work takes up a bit more of my time, and then so my training gets cut back a bit, which further frustrates me, which gets me unclear about my work, which then makes me lose focus for my workout, which then makes my diet slip, and then I sleep poor and then my next day's training is off ... and I get in this spiral. 
Makes absolutely no sense, does it? “Every human being is the author of his own health or disease.” - Buddha. So these choices are part of my journey, part of my confronting my weakness, my humanity, my discipline, my desire to exercise self control - and when I see the weakness like this, as I have for the last 48 hours, it makes me realize how much work I have to still do. Breathe in, breathe out. Is any of the above really true? Or is just represent choices, implied and explicit I have made in that little shell of my head?
So today was an easy run, as I tried to get my head, my life, my running into a place where I felt more comfortable with it and really what is. I went easy at the tail end of the day on the creek path.  Today this spiral stops.   The BTR talk with all those mountain runners at Sherpa's was a nice mental clearing house (motivational) as well (more on that in an other post later).

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Comments
From jtshad on Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 15:13:48

You have a great attitude to get that spiral heading back up.

Keep up the hard work.

From George on Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 01:48:16

JT - well, I keep seeing all that mileage you are doing on the mill and it helps nudge me a bit too. Thanks for the "virtual" motivation.

GZ

From jtshad on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:00:03

My pleasure..or not really a pleasure on the mill, just a necessity.

Go hit them roads!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.005.000.000.0012.00

I apologize in advance: I think this is going to be a little long ...


Yesterday, I talked about about spiraling down in training, and how I had got into a bit of a rut over the last couple of days. I was determined to break that cycle today, realizing that this was more about my mentality, and losing control over little choices I make more than anything else. As much as one can spiral down, I beleive you can spiral up too. You can just be on top of all of it - you do a workout and absolutely kill it, it breaks your flesh but you feel more energy in yourself after the workout than before, you eat well, you sleep well, you connect with your loved ones, and you are at balance for a brief moment in your world. So I looked to start to get back to that today. One step at a time. Ridiculous ain't it?

I did not get on the mill until 8:15PM, so I'd be a liar if I did not say that think about putting off this workout, this run, and just floating in this muck for another day. But I was able to clear my head (finally) after a few hours free from work, hanging with the family for dinner, and chatting some good talk with my bride.

Bear with this transition here, it will come back around ...I have not really been watching this drama of the Presidential Race. I have lost hope in our federal government, its representatives, Democrat and Republican alike. I have come to wonder if we should ever trust a person who spends millions of dollars to get a position that pays them 400K. Nonetheless, a lot of my friends are wrapped up in it, and TG sent me a link to the recent video, "Yes. We. Can." It is a damn catchy riff, a beautiful video and I found it to be a moving message. TWK (welcome back to the blogosphere! Love the title!) sent me a post stating that most of our emotions, and hence actions are an outcome of fear, love and hope. The "Yes. We. Can." video represents this (it ain't about politics in that video to me, even though it is obviously marketing a candidate, I am still undecided on who I will vote for, mostly because I don't know much about where they stand on the issues), our journey's up Pikes and back, Lucho's dance with the marathon, PM's drive to master his IM, JV's jaunts up mountains, all of us ... we are doing this because we love being out there, we fear the days when we won't be able to, and we hope to transcend what we currently are. Ridiculous, like I said ... if it is positive though, is it a rant?

I got on the mill and heard the words to that song, but they morphed in my head a bit.
It was a creed written into the your soul that declared the destiny of your humanity.
Yes you can.
Yes you can to greater good and serenity.Yes you can to grace and commitment.Yes you can heal yourselves and reach new limits.Yes you can become something more than what you are.
Yes you can.
You know the battle ahead will be long, but always remember that no matter what obstacles stand in your way, nothing can stand in the way of the power of you, calling for change in you.
You have been told you cannot do this by a chorus of cynics...they will only grow louder and more dissonant ...........
You've been offered silver bullets and quick fixes, but in unique but common story that is you, there has never been anything false about hope and dreams that require commitment.Now is the time to write your comeback story, your chapter in the American dreamscape, and how you chose to do something more. You will remember that it is your choices, that it ALL starts with you and that you are not the victim of anyone else's curses, fears or spites except the ones that you create.
Yes. You. Can.

12 miles. For the first 10, I went 0% (7:24), 5% (7:45), 0% (7:06), 5.5% (7:39), 0% (7:08), 6% (7:47), 0% (7:05), 6.5% (7:22), 0% (7:05), 7% (8:14) and then warmed down real slow ... (9, 10), total was 1:33. I totally blew up in the 7% mile. I was not red lining but I just ran out of gas. My HR went down, I think it just all caught up to me ... but I did not care, as I was detoxing.
(today's pic is the start line of the Ascent in 2007)

 

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

I went easy today because I might race tomorrow. Or I might go hard. It is to be determined. 7 miles, with some solid stretching (that I have not done in a bit).

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Race: Frozen Foot 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:17:15, Place overall: 9, Place in age division: 3
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.000.003.0014.00

Last night I was yapping with TG and told him that I'd do this 5K race if I felt good, but not if I felt off, or even on the fence. Well, I must have lied because when I woke up this AM, I did not feel good. I did not feel bad. I just felt flat. But I decided to jump into this anyway, to get a new baseline as to where I am at, and because racing does provide a bit of fuel for rekindling the fire.


It was cool (30s?), overcast, and a touch humid. In my warm up, I, as one is prone to do in warm ups, worried about how my connective tissue felt, how my legs felt a bit heavy, and the like. I ran into Andy Ames and chatted with him a bit. It seemed like his warm up pace was a bit quick for me and I wondered if this race was going to represent a step backwards. But, in any case, I was there, in the ring, and so you have to give it a shot.

We got out quick - of course. All these races go out quick and I was about 20 deep about a minute into the race. With this initial play in, I began the task at hand and began focusing on keeping relaxed but rolling up those who had gone out too fast, while not becoming someone else's victim. I felt actually pretty good in this first mile and split (fwiw) at 5:25. Right past the first mile, I passed the last person I would get for the race (I did not know that at that time of course). I was a bit concerned with the mile split, thinking that I had maybe gone a bit too fast in the start and felt like I was begining to pay for that in some of the short climbs in the second mile. It was a bit of a lull in there, I was not in direct contact with anyone, and I lost a bit of focus and drive. I hit the two mile split in 5:42 (11:07). I began to get my head back and tried to begin to push, realizing I only had about six or so minutes left of running. There were some good straight stretches and I got a 5:36 third mile (16:42), finishing in 17:15 (I had about two clicks faster on my watch but its common for finish chutes to add two seconds). This landed me ninth, and 3rd in the 30-39 age bracket (age group won by some tri guy named Matt Reed ...).
I am happy with the improvement this race shows. Again, I did not feel particularly stellar, but I am showing improvement in 5K time, and so that has to reflect an improvement in fitness (17:44 at Oatmeal 5K, to 17:15 today). The course is probably a touch short, but Andy said it has something like 35 turns. A good number of those turns are more like switchbacks than just 90 degree turns, and a couple had some ice. So, I'll call it even. While I am happy with the improvement, particularly with it coming on a week where I felt I was off, I realize I have work to do. It has taken me about three months to drop 40 seconds off the 5K time. I want to drop at least another 40 on it in the next three months. This will require a bit of shift in focus, more to particular interval workouts, but I think I am ready for that. Again, I felt flat, not bad, not good ... maybe a bit race rusty mentally in my ability to dig in the middle mile. I certainly did not feel like warm death at the end of the race ... it seems that I am able to get to that kill yourself state better the fitter I am. I do think that the faster opener shows that I am getting some of that turnover. Just need to keep that going for a few more miles!
I am giving this week a B-. It would have gotten a C or worse given I did not have a long run this week, and the mid week distractions, but I did manage to pull myself out it and show improvement in this race.
9 miles with the race, added a real easy five in the evening on the mill.  Felt good, not sore at all.

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Comments
From dave holt on Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 18:42:13

Nice race - That intial burst of speed and having to just keep moving so fast is one reason I'm not a fan of 5K's. I'll leave 'em to the young guys!

From George on Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 19:04:21

Young guys? Aren't you 30? ;)

From josse tobiasson on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 00:52:49

that's a smoken time

great job!

From jtshad on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:28:19

Nice race, George! You will drop those 40 seconds this year as your training is going well.

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Monday ... another start of the week. Zero miles in the log to start. Here we go again ... part of me loves this ... knowing that the pure monotny of training for some is what sends them away. Those that train through these short dark, windy, cold days will overcome. BWAH-HA-HA.

I came home early from the office to work a bit from home, help out with the family as my bride was not feeling well. Nonetheless, I snuck down to the mill before dinner and banged out seven. I started slow (8:20) and just kept picking it up ... not because I felt good, but mostly because I wanted to get the run done and get back upstairs. And because I was getting bored. 7 miles in 48 minutes, with the last six under 40 ... and it was easy.

I can feel my fitness progressing, simply because I ran a race yesterday and here I am feeling okay enough to run sub sevens on a machine I used to hate the next day. Okay, some of this is because it is mill running (which I am becoming more and more convinced is easier).  But at the same time, and this might seem contradictory, while that fitness is improving, I can feel a part of me falling apart. I can almost feel the bone growing on my gimp foot heel; with each mile I build up a bit more calcification on that Haglund's deformity. My abdominal issue has not really healed; depsite my wanting it to just go away by ignoring it ... it has not. I get up from my desk in the middle of the day and I look like I am about to fall over.  How the hell does that happen where you go from running 5:30s in a race to not being able to walk comfortably at the office?
 
Is this age? You actually can increase fitness or maintain it but the body parts start to give? I talked to Buzz at the BTR talk the other day and I asked him how he was doing. He spoke about a variety of injuries he has had to deal with (hammie, should surgeries, etc). He said, "I have this great engine, but the wheels just keep falling off the car!" Okay, okay, I am not falling apart. In fact, the Achilles has been a pain (literally) for years (put your foot in a lawn mower once and you never are forgiven - sheesh ... ). Maybe it is pyschosamatic, brought on simply because I am this age and I supposed to think about this stuff more, but it seems like I feel more little niggling ache and pains then I used to.
 
And yes, they are aches and pains. The difference between an injury and an ache and a pain was described to me by Jason Hickman at the Camera years ago ... as I described a problem he asked, "can you run on it?" "well, yeah, after I warm up some." "then it ain't an injury, it is just an ache and a pain. When you can't run on it, then it is an an injury."

After I got the kids down I hit the mill again (the winds were really ridiculous today, they actually woke me up last night shaking the house) for five in 33.  Total on the day, 13 in 81.  I doubt I could do a half that quick outdoors right now, but ... I could not have done five on the mill in 33 three months ago after doing 8 and felt comfortable.  The body is an amazing vessel.

Bill Wright continues to do ridiculous things. I love his attitude.

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2.5 mile warm up over to Monarch, 4 sets of 200-200-400 with equal rest and then a 2.5 mile warm down.  I did a few 100m strides before the workout to open it up a bit.  Again, I did not concern myself with rest here (although, I think I will begin to convert to those sorts of workouts, where rest is timed and controlled, shortly), and focused on the turnover.  The 200s were in 34.x, and the 400s were 73.x, 72.x, 72.x and 71 flat.  The speed is coming back.
 
... but I am having a problem now tapping into it.  My lower abdominal wall hurt a lot today.  I really bugged me in the early part of the warm up, but then it cleared up some.  Nonetheless, I found I could not dig the legs as much as I wanted to because I had this core problem.  I backed off the workout a touch because of this (both in effort, and in overall duration - 4 sets instead of five).   I suspect the treadmill is somehow behind this, because it always seems to hurt more post treadmill running.  But that might just be an excuse.  I need to get this thing looked at soon.  If it is a hernia, it ain't going to just go away.
 
9 miles on the day, 70 minutes.

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I felt tired today. Just tight all around, and tired. The weather was more like April today (65) so I got out for four around 3 and six around 5. All easy running.

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From jtshad on Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:02:47

Hope you intestinal area is feeling better. If it is a hernia, definitely get it looked at soon so you can get back to running after getting it fixed up.

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So I felt better today. Not as tight, not as sore in the abs. And what sucks is I am not wholly sure why. It could be:

  • I had an easy day yesterday (after three somewhat more challenging days).
  • I ate ice cream last night
  • I have not run on a treadmill in a couple of days
  • Venus is in the constellation of Virgo
  • I took some vitamin I (okay, Ibuprofen!) like my medical provider advised me.

But in any case, I felt a bit zippier. Slept great last night too. But my point here is we are not simple experiments where you control one variable and then something else moves.

It snowed today (after that 65+ yesterday). I got out mid afternoon for an easy 8 (1 hour) and then tacked on an easy 3 a little later.

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I got on the mill early today with aspirations to do a two hour run, simply to get it done for the week - it is going to be a busy weekend.  I was also curious to see if the mill run would cause me to be the BIG WIMP that I have been about this abdominal strain I have had.
 
In any case, same sort of approach to my long run as my last one on the mill - build into it.  I thought if I could get 17 in two hours, I'd be content with that.
 
7:23
7:18 (14:42)
7:12 (21:54)
7:11 (29:05)
7:01 (36:05)
6:54 (43:01)
6:48 (49:49)
6:43 (56:33)
6:40 (63:13)
6:35 (69:49)
6:31 (76:20)
6:27 (82:47)
6:27 (89:14)
 
I was taking water every five minutes to keep well hydrated.  I took a gel at the hour, and started drinking some Nuun every five minutes at the 70 minute mark.  By the 13th mile (above) I was sweating like it was a July day in Rhode Island.  I was not working crazy hard, but I was needing to focus.  I figured with the 13 in sub 90, I'd back off for a four mile warm down.
 
6:52 (95:06)
6:52 (1:42:58)
6:48 (1:49:46)
6:26 (1:56:12)
 
Yeah - that last mile was just get it done kind of thinking.  Again, I need to do this stuff outside, but this morning did not lend to it from a schedule, where I needed to be perspective.  My stomach did not hurt much during this run, but I was aware of the tightness down there.  Then again, I did start my day with a couple of Advil with the coffee.
 
Mentally, I think I want to wrap my head around this run getting really fast (for me) as I build through it.  That is going to take as much head work as physical work.  Thinking about running sub six for 10 seems mentally easy if I am thinking about a race, but hard to do it in a workout.  As they say, train hard - race easy.

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Joined Scott E this AM for a real easy jaunt in the foothills west of his house. The trails still have some snow and ice, but traction is not necessary. Scott is just bouncing back so we went real easy for an hour. I got in an other five in the afternoon and played with the jump rope a bit.

When you see Scott on days like this, where he is running easy, you'd probably not guess that he has won Pikes Peak Ascent 8 times. Scott, in fact, is one of the few runners that has had any sort of modicum of success against Pikes reigning king Matt Carpenter. But, if you were to see him when he is full on into his training, killing Linden hills in June, you realize you are dealing with a different kind of person. I remember the first time I ran with him on said route and left thinking, "wow, that guy is dialed in and focused." Nice, soft spoken guy. Just don't expect that you are going to get off easy if you try to run up a hill with him. He, of course, has his eyes on that mountain in Manitou again. His ability to transform himself from a runner who will go easy in February because "he's not there yet" to someone who in August can stick their hand into a burning vat of lactic acid flame for lung searing ascents - continues to amaze and baffle me.

The pain in my lower abdominal muscle has returned, and so I suspect the treadmill again given the effort there yesterday. Hopefully, the easy running outside will cause it to relax a bit.

Shout out to Lucho who runs in Austin tomorrow.  Go get it!

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13 today on the treadmill. I had early aspirations to get a tempo in today, but I spent a good deal of the day with the family at the pool. Playing in the pool, hot tub, etc took some of the spunk out of my legs and so I landed on just going easy.

Ok week, with a fair long run, and an okay track session. 82 miles on the week, 188 on the month. I found it a bit hard to dig in this week with the abdominal stuff I have been dealing with. Nonetheless, I think I am progressing.

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I met up with JV and AV at Sanitas this afternoon. These two are serious mountain goats. Every weekend they are off bagging some 14er. It is easy to overlook this on the planet of Boulder where everyone seems to be sponsored by some shoe company, or are running across the country in a Fred Flinstone vehicle, or are describing a 2:31 marathon as an off day. Climb all the Colorado 14ers? It almost like another Cub Scout badge in this town.

But it really is not. Really, it is not. In fact, it quite nuts. Read his blog if you don't beleive me. Maybe I should not have a picture of a mountain goat but instead of mixed martial art fighters to portray how hard this is.

I had put about 2 miles in before hooking up with these two. I had some aspirations to do a tempo up this hill, but the treadmill run last night left me more tapped than I had expected, particularly in, you guessed it, in the abdominal muscle wall area. Latest hypothesis on this is that it is just strained and I am not giving it enough rest for it to effectively heal. I realized that Sanitas is not easy and that running it easy (figure that out) would provide a good workout in any case. And as I expected, it kicked me in the teeth. Sanitas, while short in duration, does have significant grades right from the get go. And ain't even the grades that seem to get me, its the fair step ups. I tried to keep it relaxed but by 10 minutes in, I was, well, something other than relaxed. JV can totally smoke me on this stuff, but he always remains kind, stating how the pace is just fine for him. It was good to run with him, talk training, mountains, and jokes about gas. With about 3 minutes to go I thought there was a shot at breaking 20, but the ascent trip took 20:12.

I know that making deposits in flat and speed first, as I have been, will cause a debt on the hills that I will have to pay. I got notice of that debt today. I said to JV on the way down - "I want to do it all." And I do. I want to do the fast track workouts, the long road runs, the killer hill tempos, the long mountain runs, the hill repeats, the long building flat tempos. Of course, there is this minor issue we have to deal with called recovery. (Total side note, this crud that some Yankee pitcher is hurling about not taking HGH to be a better pitcher but instead to help him recover is that - CRUD. Your ability to recover is your performance). Sanitas put me on notice, I need to inject a run like this at least once a week to keep some hill familiarity in the legs. With the weather breaking, that ought to be a bit easier. The focus will shift a bit to those sort of runs, more structured track work (managing recovery more closely) and moving some of the long runs to the trails (but assuring they are building efforts). Where I am changing from last year at this point is the level of focus I am putting on the hills. It is a minor but significant tweak.

We came back down, caught up with AV and ran with her the rest of the way. It was a good easy run, with the Sanitas portion taking about 40 minutes all told. I parted from JV / AV and I jogged over to Fleet Feet after this, did a quick check on a few things from the wireless, and then got at it again. I got in some minutes before joining the group at the store for the Monday night jog. At this point, I was ready to be done but the group run (which never starts on time, and that bugs the heck out of me), pushed me through another five miles.

All told, it was about two hours, and about 14 miles.

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GORGEOUS DAY. Shorts, t-shirt. Just plain sweetness on the Davidson Mesa, with big views of the Flatirons. Easy 10. Supposed to snow again on Thursday.

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From dave holt on Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 21:28:02

I hit the link expecting to see some beutiful pic; but it was night so nothing - I'll have to remember to check it out again tomorrow. Those mountain climb/run/hikes sound awesome.

From George on Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 21:30:32

Well, as you know, whereever you are is beautiful - right?

It is a web cam from someone's house on the back side of the Mesa. And for what it is worth, they don't have the best views.

Dave - you are banging out some great training. Good work and keep it up.

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Long before I knew its name as the Davidson Mesa, I called the back hill on that big flat area behind my office as LOSH - or the Louisville Open Space Hill. I am including a picture of the mesa today, as the webcam link I put up yesterday ... well for the night owls on the internet, it provides a less than illuminating image.

I would put LOSH in my logs to indicate where I had run. This back hill is a short jaunt, but it is fairly steep, rocky and makes my arms hurt when I run it. Along with other parts of my body. Yes, this hill and I have a history. And I think I have yet to win an argument with it. This hill ain't that long. Alone, its steep section is probably 200 yards. A workout for me in the past on this hill has been eight up and down repeats, with the ups being under a minute. So a minute on it is near eight minute pace. That seems slow. I keep telling my lungs and legs that and they don't really seem to care. For a short workout, it is one that usually leaves me grabbing my knees at the end and wobbling in the office for the rest of the day. And it always leaves me with that mixed feeling like I had accomplished something, but that I had so much more to do.



In any case, I took a slightly different approach to this old friend today. Rather than just running the hill outright, I ran a lead up section to it, and then drove into the hill, and then would loop back around the top side of it back to the lead up section. These ended up being just short of being 2 minute repeats with then about a four minute rest jog. The lead ups and hill ended up being about a quarter mile and the jogs were a half mile.

I did not feel real zippy - mostly because I still can't seem to get my stride out as long as I'd like it - because of this abdominal thing. That problem is getting better (which supports my hypothesis that the treadmill is aggrevating it, as I have not been on the treadmill for a few days) but it is still a bit of a problem. Nonetheless, I was getting up the hill in about 65-67. I was satisfied with that given it was a bit iced over in some parts (putting me off the trail into the cacti and yucca), and with the lead in. I did six of these, each one getting quicker. And like an old dependable friend, it left me grabbing my knees on the last one, but still feeling like I had a lot to do. I will look to build this workout to be more laps, quicker overall, and quicker on the ups. 10 miles total, 3 miles warmup, 3 mile warm down, 4 with the six loops. Contributions to the workout today came from Coheed and Cambria (James, I don't really you but I am guessing you'd dig these guys ...) and The Darkness (those guys are nuts).

I am playing with the idea that next week I drop my mileage to 50 miles (from the 70-80ish I have been doing) and focusing the work more on speed. I am interested in performing this experiment for two reasons: 1.) I am curious to see how I respond to a drop in mileage. I'd like to think that a drop would leave me feeling fresher and that I could attack the speed workouts a bit more and b.) I'd like to try this to emulate a bit of a taper. I am trying to figure out how that taper needs to look now, particularly given how Lucho feels his had adverse effects to his effort at Austin. I am thinking that this little experiment will let me play a bit harder in that mileage space, begin to see how my body will respond to lower mileage (albeit, I will be upping the intensity some) and start to sort those things out (178 days to go!).

Oh yeah - I got a question: why is your blog called Hang Nine? Answer: I have nine toes. I lost a toe (and created all sorts of other foot scar tissue issues) when I was a kid (let's say it is a race I lost). My Dad coined the phrase when we found I could not really wear flip flops as they would simply fall off that foot. So think of hang ten (the surf term). I hang nine.

Live it.

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From jtshad on Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 16:20:50

Man, I love your blog entries they are fun to read.

Keep up the hard work and let us know how your mileage/speed experiment works out.

From George on Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 16:27:18

Jeff

Thanks for the kind words. I actually cross post this stuff at georgezack.blogspot.com. When I started this "electronic" log book this year, I chose to use Flotrackr, FastRunning and Blogspot as part of an experiment to see which worked best for me.

The jury is still out. I like this because of the mileage board, and the pure running nature of these boards. But it is lacking in some (intermediate) blog features that I get with Blogspot. Flotrackr has some cool concepts as well that this board does not have. And finally, there is blogspot, but it does not have any of the running calculation features, etc.

So I am still playing.

I am looking forward to a day where we get to run - heck, maybe even race each other. Ought to be interesting to meet people I have been "pen pals" with on similar journeys.

From jtshad on Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 17:05:02

If I get back to Denver some day I will let you know (I have a really good friend who lives in Arvada that I need to hook up with again soon).

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I got out mid day for an easy jaunt on the Davidson Mesa. Later in the afternoon, I met CC for a run up Flagstaff. One of my favorite stories from last year's Pikes weekend is watching CC finish the Ascent.   I had 50 yard field side tickets to watch the Super Bowl of mountain running.   Seeing folks come up to the finish, just worked, driving to finish this thing was absolutely awesome.  Watching CC finish, considering what he had been through in the 18 months prior was pure inspiration.  I'd tell his story here but it is his story (and maybe I will if I get his permission).

This was a really slow six (I checked the distance via mapmyrun).I was thrashed, the trails were icy and muddy and I was without additional traction. CC was really kind in waiting up for me but I was in the so called "granny gear" most of the way - and I really held him up We started at Eben Fine Park, when up the Viewpoint trail, connected to the Flagstaff trail. Once we got to the top, we edged around on Boy Scout. I had never been on this trail. It was pretty icy and I flopped a couple of times, and did the skitter dance many more. I definitely want to check out this bugger this summer ... it could make for a good little repeat loop.
 
Much more I could write, but I am off to read some comic books with my son.
 

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From Jim on Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 22:03:25

Hey George,

Is that a picture of the Pike's Peak race? an awesome trail to run, if you can handle the altitude. I see one of your long terms goals is to run the Grand Canyon. Do it, I did a double crossing last year and am doing it again this year. Fantastic experience. Reading about your running trails makes me anxious for the snow to clear out of the mountains so I can get back up there.

From George on Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 22:07:21

Yeah - that is a picture of CC coming up into the finish of the Ascent last year.

I will look to return to the Marathon this year (I did it for the first time last year ... more details at georgezack.blogspot.com)

I do want to do the R2R2R sometime. A guy I run with here named Dave Mackey has done it a couple of times so I am hoping to hook up with him on it soon.

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After the run yesterday, I was worked. It was one of those where after the run, my butt is just draggin' ... I was laying in bed in the evening, still feeling that buzz of it all. It is interesting to me that my hard days often leave me feeling invigorated but my easy days leave me feeling like chewed up and spit out. I was jacked enough that I even slept poorly, waking up several times in the night.


I am realizing I need to be in the hills a bit more. Last year there was this little voice in my head saying I needed to do more speed, more flat stuff . This year, the voice is saying I need to get those wonderful hills more. Getting on them twice this past week has revealed a chink in the armor I am trying to build. I have a good amount of time to correct that, but dang ... Sanitas and Flagstaff gave me some good kick in the teeth reminding.


It is all about finding that right balance of flat, speed, hill, long, rest, diet ... and LIFE. Yeah, on this blog, I talk a lot about training, my ups and downs with workouts, but I am living a dream. The slice of the dream last night was reading X-Men #7 to my son (he is seven, and this comic is from 1964) and then having my daughter read over my shoulder while I blogged work stuff - and she corrected my grammar and spelling!

Today was yet another perfect weather day. Low 50s, not an ounce of wind. Well, maybe an ounce. I jogged three miles from the office over to Monarch High track later in the afternoon. It gets a little tough to get a track this time of year because you begin to compete for lane space with the high school track team, soccer team, lacrosse group, etc. I do try to stay out of their way, as I am the guest. I did the 200-200-400 workout again. Again, I have not worried on limiting the rest in this workout but this time, I kept it a bit more honest. I was hitting the 200s in 33-34 and the 400s went 73, 72, 72, 71, 70. I felt ... okay. I mean, I did not feel great and powerful - in fact I felt a bit heavy. But in a wierd kind of way, I can feel this shell of crud unpeeling around me. That hardly describes it, but I am getting to a point where I can feel a little turnover in there again. Still a far cry from what it was, but I occasionally get a wiff of it. Or maybe I just need a shower. My abdominal area is still a bit sore, but the strain seems to be very slowly subsiding (sneezing does cause me to wince quite a bit though). Warmed down back to the office for three miles.

Booked my room at Pikes today. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention yesterday that CC has the baddest looking Fu-Man-Chu I have ever seen.

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 I got out on the various off shoots of the Mesa trail with Lucy today. I had little for a course agenda, but I wanted to get two hours.  I got that and about 13 miles (with some fair vertical). For most of the run, I figured I'd avoid the ice and let Lucy determine the course. We did not avoid the mud however! We were both so muddy when we got home, my son asked "that's Lucy?!" It took a good amount of bathing to get her clean.

I spent about a half an hour or so running with local ultra legend Dave Mackey.  He was also out for a run with his dog and so we hooked up for a few miles. Dave has done more off the chart stuff in the last five years than most people do in their entire lives:  set the record on the Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim, come in second at Western States, set records at 50 milers and 100ks all over the place, done adventure races all over the world, won nearly every Satan Minion's run, nearly caught Matt C at Pikes last year with an insane descent, hold FKTs for most of the routes in Boulder, won a 350K race in Canada last year where he won some monster diamond for his wife.  It is truly difficult to comprehend what an amazing athlete this guy is.  His accomplishments are other worldly.  And yet, he comes across as a soft spoken, quiet guy - more interested in what you are doing for training and racing than speaking about what he has done.  But there is no questioning that he has a deep competitive fire down in there ... it is just hard to see it until the gun goes off.  We spoke a bit about training, recent races, some of our goal races, what some other locals are doing, our families, and the like.  I am excited to hear that Dave is at least considering doing the so called "Mountain of Pain" (yes, that is Pikes again).  Any race with him in it has proven to not be over until it is over - and with the long descent at Pikes where he holds one of the best times, folks better not think they have put the race away with a strong Ascent.

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Cool morning, but again, signs of spring out there.  Did a 12 mile loop easy through Teller Farm from the house.  I bounced into a couple of folks out at the Farm and ran with them for about 20 minutes before heading back home.  Isabelle Road is having work done on it so it was totally closed to traffic - it was nice to be able to run down the middle of the road.
 
It was a good week.  I had two runs at 2 hours with both of them including some fair amount of climbing.  My mileage was 81 on the week, but the time on that was about 690 minutes (versus about the same amount of mileage last week, with less hills and about an hour less).  I had a turn over workout as well.
 
This next week I am going to try dropping the mileage (50 miles comes to mind) and up the intensity slightly.  My take on this that I will do easy days really easy or not run at all.  I will probably look to do more core work, athletic work on those days but really lower the running volume.  I want to see if I can get a bit more spring in the legs for the hard days.  I am also going to food log next week as well.
 
Live it.

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I felt a bit off throughout the day. I felt ... thick. Tracy said this probably because I am sick. That might be the case, given the crazy flu that has been going around but I don't think so. I just felt heavy and slow today. THICK. Nonetheless, as per plan I went easy, and short - 4 miles. I added on about 30 minutes of stretching, core work, etc. It is hard for me to attack the core given this ab thing, so most of it was working around that. I can't even do a single situp without significant strain. I am supposed to see a doc tomorrow for a physical and I will see what he has to say about it.


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Busy day, night. I got out mid day for a tempo. 2 mile warm up, did 3 laps around Harper Lake off McCaslin (building, each a touch faster than the previous) and then back down through the Davidson Mesa to the office. Whole thing was about 26 minutes with the pace starting a bit above 6 minute pace and then moving down to 5:30s. Looking forward to doing this sort of workout more often now that I can and adding length to it, dropping the pace more. I did not feel well rested, actually kind of flat (still a bit thick) even with the light four yesterday, but we'll see how the rest of the week goes. Warmed down for an other three miles.

I saw the doc today and he is pretty convinced my abdominal thing is not a hernia but a good muscle strain called a diastasis. This is apparently where the muscle separates from the vertical line of connective tissue. It should heal on its own as long as I don't strain it.

I also had some blood work done to check some of the basics. I don't think they would have normally done this as part of a physical but I indicated I was interested in doing a 50 miler and wanted to assure that there were no problems there. I sort of re-realized why I don't like to talk to folks about these sort of events. When you mention this, most folks put you in that, "oh you are one of those" category. Now I guess this doc does not normally have people come in and say, "umm, hey doc, can I get clearance to do a 50 or a 100?" No, in fact, he probably spends most of his day dealing with folks that are wanting get back to basic good health.


"So you run how much now?"
"About 10 hours a week"
"All at once?!"
"No, no, I run every day so some days are 30 minutes, some are a couple of hours."
Here he gives pause and a long look.
"So, what 2 to 5 miles a day ...?"


I have yet to find the right answers to these questions that put people's minds at ease, and let them know that this behavior is not unusual, particularly when they consider it against some of the activities they regularly pursue. And so I usually dodge and evade these questions, or get a (as my wife describes it) a real goofy tone of voice in describing what I do.

Curious to see how I feel tomorrow. I am tempted to just do an other tempo if I feel good, or maybe hill repeats.  And he said I could run a 50 if I wanted to.

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From Jon on Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 00:49:09

Gotta love doctors doing check ups on runners, especially sports med docs- "Um, you should give up running for your health".

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 I felt pretty good last night and had thoughts that I'd come back and go "hard-ish" again today. But despite the great weather again today, once I got moving a bit out there, I knew I'd not be able to hold a workout that I'd feel good about. I still feel a bit off - Tracy thinks I am fighting some illness.

So, I have done what all of us do when things don't go our way - I have rationalized this. I was not supposed to go hard today, I was supposed to easy today and absolutely kill myself tomorrow as part of this lower mileage, higher intensity experiment I am running through (that does not seem to be going so great thus far). This experiment might be jacked altogether if I am fighting some sort of illness I guess. We'll see tomorrow.
I did an easy seven on the Davidson Mesa, and did some stretching and then jumped rope for about 15 minutes. I have come a pretty long way from when I got the rope at the end of the year (a gift from my daughter at Christmas). I could barely get ten jumps at a ridiculously slow cadence then. I still look like a moron out there but I look like a moron that can jump a little bit of rope. I struggle still to get the one legged jump stuff done - particularly on the left lawnmower foot.

I have heard some interesting podcasts on the mind body connection as of late. This past week's This American Life and Fitness Rocks both hit on the connection, although in different ways. I find some of the findings in the Fitness Rocks 'cast to be particularly interesting. In short, when they told people that they were indeed exercising when they performed routine work activities (routine for them), their measurable health factors improved (BMI, blood pressure, etc). In other words, the verbal on what they were doing either made them change their behavior and become healthier - or their mind somehow changed thier physical health factors. Given that placebos (a substance introduced that will have NO expected physical reaction) have caused people to have rash reactions (demonstrating that when you suggest something - you will get the result), you have to consider the power of your mindset when applied to training and expected race outcomes. Have you ever met a winner of a truly competitive event who thought "there is no way I can win?" Think (pun intended) about it. I heard another show where Derek Jeter of the Yankees refused to even consider when he was in a slump after he went 0-32 in batting. Now why would he do that?
One of my favorite stories on this though has to be when Viren won the 72 10000m in WR time He and Frank Shorter tangled up, Viren fell to the in-field and lost about 100m on the lead pack. Virén caught up with the leading pack. With 600 meters to go, Virén dropped the hammer and started an unprecedented lap-and-a-half kick. Another athlete, Ghammoudi who had fallen in the race in the same tangle up dropped out after trying to catch the lead pack for about half a lap. In retrospect, Shorter said (loosely), "For Ghammoudi to win the race, it was going to have to go perfectly for him. Regardless of what happened in the race though, Viren was going to win."Mindset is not just mumbo jumbo - it can dictate how you perform and set your limits.  Or unlock them.

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Comments
From dave holt on Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 21:26:26

I love that story and quote by Shorter - I hadn't ever heard it before. I am going to use it with my high school kids, and myself.

From George on Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 21:56:48

Picked it up in Sandrock's Running With the Legends in the chapter on Viren. Great read if you can get your hands on it.

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It was a nice day, and I had aspirations of getting outside but I needed to be at the house with my son. So, for the first time in about 10 or so days, I hit the mill.

  • 2 mile warm up with "strides" (13 minutes)
  • 2 miles (10 minutes)
  • 4 minute inactive recovery
  • 5 x 1 minute on, 1 minute off at 12mph for the on, 7.5 mph for the off
  • 2 minute inactive recovery
  • 5 x 1 minute on, 1 minute off at 12mph for the on, 7.5 mph for the off
  • 2 minute inactive recovery
  • 5 x 1 minute on, 1 minute off at 12mph for the on, 7.5 mph for the off
  • 2 minute inactive recovery
  • ~ 1 mile cool down with a couple of strides (6:30)
This got me 10 in about about an hour of running, just few ticks over 67 when considering the inactive rest. I was pretty stoked to get the two miles in in 10 minutes. That was not too hard actually - during the repeat. My body suddenly noticed what the heck I had did during the rest session. The minutes on / off were not that bad - just required some degree of focus. I started playing a bit with them in the last two sets, making them 62-65 seconds to get the treadmill clock more aligned with where I wanted it. I have a bit of doubt that I could do a ten minute two mile outside right now - again, I think there is something to be said just for keeping up with the mill - but I was glad to wrap my head around this bugger.

I decided to watch the movie 5000 meters, nothing comes easy. There is this scene in the begining where they roll a clock to 13:21.5, and discuss how that is the Olympic A standard. I thought this would be a good motivational part to watch while I ran the two mile section.  About 3 minutes into my run, I am looking at this running clock on the tube and begin to guess that their seconds are much faster than mine.  13:21.5 had come and gone well befor I got to a mile and a half.  All I can say "what is up with that?"

I talked to Lucho a bit last night and we are going to look to get together for a run this weekend. is We yapped a bit about his training, Austin, my marathon in August, etc ... Given some of the things we talked about, I am taking a bit of a different approach to what this week is about. Frankly, I don't feel super fresh with this lesser mileage. I don't feel horrible, but it is not like I have a bunch of pop in my legs all of a sudden. Nonetheless, this lower mileage this week fits in well that it serves as a "rest" in the bigger picture of mileage. With 30 so far this week, I am expecting to get 60 or more. That might not seem like a big rest, but with the norm being 80's as of late, that is about a 15 to 20 percent drop.

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10 miles easy with MK and PH on the Boulder Creek Trail. Felt good. Kept it easy - no residual crud from yesterday.

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Running got shanghai'ed by two thing this AM. One, from early in the AM to mid afternoon, JZ and I spent the day with the Cub Scouts at Colorado School Mines - doing various basic science experiments. That was a good reason. The second reason, and not so good was I spent a good portion of my day dealing with GI issues. Ick. I have been denying that I am fighting something for a couple of days, and it came to, umm, a head today. When I tried to run in the late afternoon (temps in the mid 60s), my stomach revolted and turned back after a mile out. When I got back in the door, Tracy took a look at me and wanted to know what was wrong. I did not answer because I was doing my first true speedwork of the season as I bolted to the bathroom.

Tracy told me to go to bed, and she was probably right, but I wanted to get out - it was such a beautiful day. So I hopped on my bike and spun around in Erie for about an hour. I never bike ride. I have considered doing more of it as a supplement activity to training. Some outcomes / observations from this activity:

  • I picked up a new route for a 14-15 mile long run
  • I am probably every biker's nightmare when it comes to fashion. I was riding a mountain bike from 1995 (Trek 930) with no shocks in running shorts (yes, Euro splits) and a cotton t-shirt.
  • This activity did not hurt my abs at all. I am aware of them being slightly aggrevated when I run
  • This activity hurt my neck (tight) and my butt. Given this ride is probably the longest continuous ride I have done in recent memory, this is not suprising.
  • I kept the ride real easy, and by my quick calculations I was doing around 90-95 revs a minute, was doing a bit better than 15mph on the way out, and slower than that on the way back when I hit some wind.
  • This seemed to open my legs a bit, keep my gut settled and was not really taxing overall (other than the neck)
  • While it was easy, I don't think I have a bunch of gears above that pace when it comes to biking. I really just suck at it. It always cracks me up how bikers say to me - "dude, for as much as you run, you got the engine!" Yes, I have a little Toro motor for running. It ain't going to do crap when you put into the Porsche event of biking.

When I got home, Tracy sent me to bed (insisting this time). My gut finally seems to have settled, but getting to bed early may not be a bad idea. I am going to try to go long tomorrow.

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met Lucho and Jeff for a run this AM. I got over to Lucho's place a bit early to get some "e.c" as I wanted to get about 2 hours. As we started the run, the snow was really flying, with a good gust out of the north. And it was that really thick corn snow, making it hard to see when you looked up at all. I think if it was any of us alone, we probably would have bagged it. But we were all there and so there was no giving in. Still, there was some quiet muttering how it was 70 degrees yesterday! I found that still dealing with some residual crud from yesterday and so I felt a bit drained. Jeff had a tempo scheduled - hardly ideal conditions for that. I let the guys go and just settled into an easy pace as we hit the hills, wind and open conditions. I finished up when Lucho came back to get me at 1:45. I had planned to get more but the weak gut, combined with the blizzard conditions making me wet and cold sent me packing early.

Since I did not run with him much, I did not get to talk to Tim as much as I would have liked about his aerobic training, low HR approach he is currently taking. I need to dig into this a bit more with him, but the general approach is best described here ...

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I was totally wiped after yesterday’s easy run with JK and TL. I thought that taking it easy on Saturday put me in the green, but I was still a mess on Sunday – spending a good deal of my time in the bathroom. I don’t know if it was the flu, food poisoning, or something else, but it really did not make a difference: the end result was the same (pun intended). I just felt really weak. My father-in-law made it a point of saying that he never had seen me sprawled on the couch looking like a such a lump before yesterday (I muttered back that he did not see me at the finish of Pikes). Yesterday’s run alone should not have wiped me out, but the run in the cold and wet, combined with not being healthy pushed me over the edge. So I ran yesterday slower then I normally would have, and then got decked on the backend. I am much better today, but I do feel fuzzy on the edges and hence will take it easy.

I have been doing a lot (more?) of consideration of how I am training as of late. While I am making progress, I feel like something is missing. Like I am not getting some key elements in. And hence as if I am building up some false confidence of how I am progressing. In some regard, this is an odd thought – I am doing more miles than I have in the past (on whole), with more focus on my workouts than before. Still, that inner voice, the one that tells you if you are doing all that you can, it tells me something is amiss. Part of this feeling comes from the fact that I am doing this all based on what I think is right. And there are some definite holes in that. Am I doing enough hills? Am I training hard enough? Am I doing enough long runs? Am I getting my nutrition right? Am I drinking enough water? Am I catabolizing the eccentric muscles to effectively collect the glycogen into a steady state MAF of endocrinitic crud? Or something like that.


Part of the reason of this blog is to put that out there and challenge my assumptions in training by putting it into writing, making me think about it, and letting you take a shot a telling me what is wrong with it. A huge voice in my head often says “screw it – run. Run hard when you feel good. Run easy when you feel bad. You will improve.” But part of me knows I owe it to myself to be more intelligent than that about this whole thing if I am going to put this much effort into it. But perhaps I am analyzing to the point of paralyzing? I want to
with a thought and purpose - above the caveman mentality, but not to the point where I think myself into a hole. All of which leads to ...

I am strongly considering doing some of the maximum aerobic function or so called
MAF training that Lucho and CV have been strongly advocating. Lucho suggested that I not run above my MAF (180-my age) for eight weeks. I don’t know if I will have the patience for it for eight minutes, never mind about eight weeks. Partly because I don’t know if I believe it. Why can’t I raise my HR above 142 for the next eight weeks? What difference does it make if I do while jumping rope or something? Why is 180 – my age my aerobic threshold? Why not run at MAF one day and then go above that the next day in the classic spirit of Bowerman's easy hard? I confess: I have often looked at strict HR training as a bit of a crutch. I have been on runs with guys and their HR alarm goes off and they tell me how they must be going too hard and they need to back off. They call this discipline. I have typically nodded politely, but made note that I'd not be held hostage to a monitor. But now, I am currently playing with the idea of taking this approach for a bit to see what results it brings. I found this decent tidbit on MAF on line. This is also a good read.

I respect the heck out of what
Lucho and CV have done, and more than that – the amount of research they have put into understanding the science of endurance training. In fact, I envy that – I want to get to a point where I have more answers in this area than questions. And to that point, I will continue to question this and kick this around with those guys, as well as gents like Timmy G, Peter H and Marty K.

I got to running on the mill in the evening. I decided to run at 142 HR, just to determine what pace that was for me. I learned, observed the following:


  • My HR is totally unpredictable for the first 3/4 of a mile. There were times when the bugger pegged at 220 and then would drop to 190, pop back up to 200, and then drop to 165. I had an interuption at 3/4 of a mile and so when I got back on the mill after this, my HR was a steady 140-145.
  • I ran the next 4.25 at 7:40 pace. I had the incline set at zero. I played with the speed a bit, but I could see as I edge it up faster than 7:40, the HR would begin to bump up accordingly.
  • I was a bit dead legged, I think some crud left over from being ill this weekend.

I got back on the mill before bed for an other five and this time played with a function that I have never used called "fat burn." After entering my wt (140), age (38), desired time to run (45 minutes), goal HR (142) and speed (I put in 7.5 mph or 8min/mile) the mill then automatically changed speed and incline for me through the run.

  • Given my initial HR, again, in that first mile it kept dropping speed. I let it as I wanted to see what it would do (at least initially) without me interupting the process. It was doing all sorts of stuff with the incline (in tenths of a percent incline which is interesting since I can only tweak it to half of a percent of incline when I manually adjust it) to keep my HR as near to 142 as possible. It settled in at 7.1 mph and did not go up so I ended up running 8:20ish a mile.
  • I like to walk down on the mill for a minute or two to just get my orientation back before jumping off when I finish a run. When I did this, obviously my HR went down and so ... the incline shot way up (15% grade at 3mph). It actually did start to increase the speed there to bring my HR up from the mid 120s it was at.

I honestly don't know if I can go eight weeks where I don't run faster than a 7:40 mile right now.

 

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I had a busy day at the office, and then I had a dental appointment that ran long in the afternoon. And then I had a date with Tracy tonight. So all my typical times to sneak in a run were eaten up. In these cases, I have a choice: fret that I missed a significant training day or roll with it, realize that in the big picture - one day, one workout, one of nearly anything (non-catostrophic) does not make a difference and that I have to take a big picture view. Particularly since this is my first day off this year from what I can tell. Furthermore, I can rationalize it! I am still bouncing back from being ill this weekend. Where I need to be cautious with this is when I have a day off, it gnaws at me mentally. Interestingly, rather than further motivating me to get back on the horse, it often drives me the other way - diet slips, focus slips, etc. Training begets training, lack of training begets further laziness. Apparently I am not the only one that is victim to this spiral phenomena - several others seem to encounter this.

Back in school I learned that most geologic features are made over long periods of time
with the occasional interuption that quickly changes things. Thorson (a great prof I had) described such longterm changes in landscapes dynamic metastable equalibrium. For runners, endurance athletes, it means sometimes we swing up, sometimes we swing down, sometimes we plateau, sometimes we are agressively making strides in fitness or lack of it. And then there are the huge events where we have the breakthrough race, or the breakthrough injury. Like meteorite strikes changing the terrain, these big shifts are rare. For most of us, we carve our own Grand Canyon by being a Colorado River a little bit everyday. Today, my river was a little dry. But I will keep tapping at that rock tomorrow, the next day ...

Other items of note ...

  • Timmy G, a long time motivation to me, an excellent runner, and an all around swell guy, has started a blog
  • The MAF conversation has continued to be a good one over at Lucho's house. I love this on line forum thing that is occurring between the blogs of folks like JK, Lucho, CV, Beth, James, Kerri, and everyone else who is moving the conversation forward. It is what I imagined that evil message board site would be but never became. Hmm ... coincidence that these folks are triathletes?
  • Perhaps almost opposite to MAF, I found this good read on training via Phil.
  • Jeff Keil - post of the week ... hell, maybe the month - and yes, it is only March 4.
  • MK got some press from the Rock today in the Camera ... in an article talking about how hard it is to be a master in the Boulder area. Wait til these guys get a hold of Lucho in four years if he keeps at it...
  • Uhh - how many of you folks use some sort of an RSS reader? If you already do, disregard this part of this message ... if you don't: half the power of blogs is that the information that gets posted to them gets pushed to their subscribers. In other words, I don't need to spend an hour trolling the net everyday seeing if Tom or Jeff or any of the folks above have actually posted anything. When they do, it shows up in my feed catcher (RSS reader, aggregator, whatever). It gets sent to me. For me, that means it shows up in my Outlook, but it could be whatever catcher you use - like Google Reader. I wake up in the morning, get my cup of joe, and read the latest from all of my favorite blogs. If I am not interested, I delete it. Let me know if any of you need a hand with this.

 

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AM - got up and got down on the mill for four. I played around with HR just to see what paces brought it where. I started at 7:24 (.5 grade) (8.1 mph) and then after "warming up" for three minutes I started pushing it up .1 mph every minute. 7:10 (151), 6;43 (1:55) 6:15 (160) and then backed it down (7:12) (closing HR was 151)... I am just collecting data here and will make observations later (my head is spinning with all the good MAF conversation as of late). It was good to get up and get a run in. I have been a bit lazy with that as of late. I find that when I go to run in the AM, I am real slow to get out and do it. I wake up at 5 but then don't run to 6:15 because I screw around with all sorts of stuff: coffee, bathroom, a piece of toast, read the paper, read the blogs, look at the weather on line, bathroom again, get my running clothes on, synch my IPOD, answer an email from the east coast, think about what I want to do. What the heck ... get out and run Zack.


Mid day - real easy up on the Davidson Mesa for seven. Chillin to Zwan. I would have gone longer here but I had a meeting I was supposed to make back in the office and the dude blew it off. Grrr. Whatever. And yup, there was fresh snow up there. Got out also at the tail of the day for an other easy four - out to the Coal Creek trail and back. All told, 15 miles over 1:54.
I got some very direct feedback from Lucho tonight on training: You say you want to get "speed" back.. your goal is Pikes Peak? What do you think your fastest mile will be at this years Pikes Peak race? Work until you can run a mile at that pace.. then you have all the speed you need. If you can't hold it for 26 miles then you are lacking endurance.. of which the MAF method is 100% focused on. Also, the MAF method is not a 365 day program- you do it until you get fit enough to hammer. What Chuck and I are saying is that you have a weak foundation and you are trying to pile speed and tempo work on top of this weak foundation. You will not be able to push your fitness higher than your base endurance. In other words.. in 20 weeks after I have become aerobically strong and efficient enough to run 5:30 pace per mile while jogging at HR 145.. where do you think I will be able to go from there? MUCH faster. You on the other hand will have run hard every week and built your lactate threshold to 5:30 pace.. and that's the end, you're at your best.. If you run tempo work year around.. then when it comes time to prepare to get fast then where do you go? You will not be able to do more tempo or faster tempo. What I propose to you is to run 90 miles per week at HR 135-145 (this will be slow for you because your muscles lack the fitness to not stress your heart). Do this for 6 weeks. Test every week. What you will see happening is that every week you will get faster and faster at the same HR, this is you becoming efficient! If you were to continue this for 12-20 weeks and you plateaued then it comes time to train hard.. and you will have the structure and fitness to train harder than you've ever been able to! You'll be able to run 12-14 mile tempo runs at less than 6 min per mile pace and not kill yourself- can you do that now? Remember too that this concept that is so foreign to you comes directly from Lydiard. It's the oldest and most proven running theory of periodization! What you're proposing is arguably part of the reason for the down fall of American running. Volume is important.. and intensity hurts your ability to run volume.

 

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Lot of little runs today. I don't like to do it that way, but my schedule has been a bit tighter recently so I am getting it as I can. For example, tonight JZ and I worked on some of the finishing touches of his Pinewood Derby car (he has decided to call it the Green Dragon). The pic here is him weighing it. If you look closely, it appears his car is just a touch over the allowed five ounces. He decided he'll make changes to the weight at the official weigh in tomorrow night - they will probably have a bit more of an exact scale. I am pretty proud of the work JZ has done here. He has easily done 85 percent of the actual work on his car; I've been there to yap at him about it, hold pieces that were too big for his hands, etc. People might look at this and roll their eyes, but I love this stuff. Anyway ... back to running ...

  • AM - treadmill, easy, playing with HR again, 4 miles, low mid 140s at 8:15ish. Just easy running, trying to wake up. I got moving to the mill a little more quickly today but I got a later start (slept until 6!). I have been killing the mental boredom of the treadmill as of late listening to podcasts while on the mill, and then spending minutes counting stride rate. Rate was coming in at 86 for a single leg minute. I was happy with this - particularly since I use drop the rate at the slower paces.
  • Mid day - 5 miles out and back on the Coal Creek trail. I felt really good here. Just relaxed, clicking along for a nice little "lunch hour." I am still blowing a lot of junk out of my nose though. It is the kind where when you blow it out it feels like a part of your head just went with it, in a good way ... and then you can suddenly hear a little better too!
  • PM - 6 miles up on the Davidson Mesa. The winds came blowing in, and here I was a little stiff and tired. I kept it super easy but I was still just ready to be done.
I have been thinking A LOT about this MAF training. I have been asking a lot of folks who regularly engage in endurance sports about it - getting their take (there are no lack of opinions but they can be categorized to some degree). I have been continuing the conversation with Lucho, and I intend to participate in the test with him at the track tomorrow. There is a lot I can say about where I am with it now, but I need to give it a bit of space to better organize my thoughts and concerns about it. In short, I beleive it in, but I have some concerns about it. Whether those concerns are appropriate or not, well, that is why I need to sleep on it.

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This morning I met Lucho, Kerrie and Elizabeth over a Spangenburg Field, aka the track at Centaurus HS in Lafayette for the much discussed MAF test. It is pretty cool to get to run with these folks: I communicate with them here in cyber space quite a bit - and so when the opportunity to actually see them in the flesh occurs - it is a real treat. I hope I get to do it a lot more.

Almost immediately, Tim and I continued our discussion on MAF, my concerns about it, his rationale for it. I call this a discussion - because it is that. It is not an argument or a debate. We are discussing training, improving, our assumptions, science, our personal experiences and what we beleive it best. It is a passionate conversation. Kerrie was weighing in with some great points (which is really hard because I was talking a lot). I think everyone has heard Lucho's point of view on this. I think we agree on nearly ninety percent of what he (and Chuck) have said. But, mentally, I get stuck on this - w
hy can't any training occur above the MAF rate during base?

I have a few different ways I attach to this question. I feel the need to get some semblance of leg speed back (and hence run above MAF). I feel the need to go out and run hills. Really big ones (and hence run above MAF). I feel that you build some degree of economy to run better at slower speeds when you have the ability to run faster for shorter distances (and hence run over MAF). Why can't I run at 155 and do 7:20's? In fairness to Tim, he did attempt to answer all these questions. I am still attached to them though.

We had our conversation during the warmup and then got to the MAF test at hand. I had a feel for what my MAF pace (8:15) was going to be based on my treadmill workouts earlier this week. Lucho recommended a pace that corresponded to a rate no higher than 149 bpm. I did a couple of laps to settle into the HR and then started the actual run. I quickly settled into about a 2 minute / 400 (or about an 8:10 mile) pace. I counted strides a couple of times to kill time (86 single leg for a minute). I had a couple of quick spots where I went over 150, particularly on the west side of the track where there was the slightest thing you could call a breeze. I also did push it up once or twice when as people lapped me (go figure!). I stuck in there for 32 minutes before I had to stop (as I had to get back to the office). I easily could have kept on going, but I guess that goes without saying.

In the warm-up I mentioned to Tim and Lucho that it would be really interesting if Kerrie ran faster than me in this - as our MAF numbers were about the same. Arguably, it would put further credibility into Lucho's point: I am anaerobically fit, but aerobically weak. I was faster than Kerrie at a 5K a few weeks ago. Well, in case you have not already guessed, Kerrie did indeed run about 15-30 seconds faster per mile at the same MAF (if not lower!).

Lucho, of course, was buzzing around the track for a bit and was kind enough to speak with all of us. As he lapped me (the first time) he asked how I was doing. I was fine, as I had mentally prepared myself to run at this pace. As he buzzed away, he said, with that bearded smile, "You could be better."   And so, after all the scientific thought, all the rolling around with objective data this and that ... my thinking shifted based on an emotional input. I'd love to say that I have done the research with MAF and that I really beleive in it. But, as I have said above, I have serious concerns and doubts about it. I'd love to say that as a person who was trained as a scientist, I make decisions more on the data, less on my gut. I'd love to say as a person who makes their work life function off of presentation of data, driving data driven decisions, and showing frustration when decisions are made regardless of how the data will trend in the long term, I am objective with my training. But I really am not. This is probably why some friends of mine have said, "George, you are un-coachable" in the past. I work on my gut a LOT more than I like to admit. And so this journey to Pikes revealed that in an other little lesson to me today at some black rubkor track near on a Friday morning. When Tim said, "you can do better" it tripped that switch in me. It was not just the words, but how he said it. Hoakey I realize, but I knew when he said it, I'd have to try this. I am not sure if Tim realized that he played that card, but damnit ... that card gets me quite a bit in this world. I have decided I am going to try this MAF for a period of time. Mentally, I have not turned the corner to say I am going to do this for six or eight weeks. I am somewhat shy of that level of commitment. Maybe two weeks and I will see if there is any significant improvement. Maybe three. I am reconciling this against my concerns and fears in this way:
1.) I am 23 weeks out of Pikes.
2.) I am going to load up the mileage during this period
3.) I am going to see if keeping this easy thing actually gets my ab issue to fully repair
4.) I will look to reconcile the MAF and hill issue by doing so called MAF runs on the mill at incline, albeit at a slower pace
5.) If I get the ab to heal correctly, I will looks to bring strides back into the mix quickly

Thanks to Phil for lending me his HR monitor today.
 
What else to say? Some pix from the event today. Lucho and Kerri before the test at Centaurus Lucho and me. His beard is much cooler than mine.


About to get lapped by Lucho and Kerri in the MAF test (yup, I grabbed my camera off the bench when I saw them coming and tooks some shots).


And there they go.
 


HR rate data

Later in the day I was working a bit with
TWK and he sent me this cool screen shot.




I got in another 9 on the mill in the evening (8 min pace)

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AM - on the mill. First 3 miles I did at 5 percent to see what pace a sub 150 HR would net. It was about 10 min / mile. When I dropped the grade, did another 8, again sub 150, and this was anywhere between 8 min / mile to 7:24.

PM - back on the mill. If I run on the mill every day, is this sort of like a MAF test everytime I run? I did five miles. First mile was 8. The HR settled down after 3/4 of a mile at 135-139. Now that alone is interesting. Yesterday on the track it was 149 at 8 min pace. Perhaps this is just further quantification that treadmill running is easier? So, I bumped it up and did the next three in 21:45 (ave 7:15) (mill was a 0.5 incline the whole time). When I pushed the pace up to 7:03, the HR would tag 150 and so I'd bring it back down. For the last mile I decided to push the incline to 10 percent and see what the corresponding MAF pace was. It was just under 11 min / mile. Now that my head is wrapped up around playing this game for a bit, I am interested in see what the mix of results will be at different inclines, etc.

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This AM I was back down on the mill (my weekend schedule has not allowed me to get out a lot!). I jumped on at a 12 min a mile pace to "wake up" and then upped the pace every 15 seconds. As goofy as this sounds, this was one of the more comfortable warms I have done. My HR stabilized at 145ish around 3/4 of a mile (a bit short of that actually) and then I was at near 7 minute pace. I held this HR for the next five miles, slowing the pace in the last two as the HR would drift to 150. I captured the splits, etc in the spreadsheet I am going to maintain during this period. I don't think I can say I am seeing progress with my pace yet: my runs earlier this week were done with an upper limit of 142 and now I am using 149.  In the afternoon, I was able to sneak out for a bit and got in another 10 - easy (75:30).  My legs felt good, although my calves got a little tight at the end.  My gut (stomach) was quesy on this one though (ick).

This was a good week. While I did not do any significant speed or hard workouts, I was able to focus well mentally with lots of consideration on how to train - and get in a good amount of mileage (87) despite having a day that I missed. My legs feel good - my biggest struggle has been getting the time to get the miles in. The plan for the next week is to continue this experiment.

Folks are prepping for the big registration day for Pikes this week. I lucked out last year that I get to by-pass this (and yes, there was some element of luck to it as the time I ran last year would not have secured such a benefit in the previous three runnings of the marathon). I remember when I first met Galen Burrell and Scott Elliott. We were doing Lindens in the early summer of 2006. I was asking the routine questions about training, nutrition, and their preparations for this little race in Manitou Springs. I mentioned that I had noticed they were not on the registration list. I caught the quick, almost imperceptible glance and slight sheepish grin between these two incredibly humble but powerful hill warriors. I then learned, and I had to pull this out of them that, as they had both won the race before (and Scott multiple times) they did not need to register. In fact, they could show up race day at the starting line and just race. For free. For the rest of their lives. I suddenly had the vision of an 80 year Galen Burrell showing up on race day and getting a spot on the front of the line. Now that is a cool race tradition. While I am afforded this lucky luxury this year, I know that most will be anxiously tied to their computers Wednesday AM, finger precariously triggered over the mouse, racing to get into the race. Regardless if you beleive this is the best way or the worst way to manage race registration, we all want to avoid the registration crash of last year.  Good luck to all possible race participants!

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15.000.000.000.0015.00

I am a bit tired today. I had some aspirations when I went to bed of getting up early and getting some miles in. But I slept like a dead man last night and by the time I rolled out of bed, it was time to get the clan moving to school, etc. So I didn't. It is going to be another tight week with my schedule so I am going to end up sneaking stuff in at lunch, late night, early AM ... so a lot of little runs again.



Mid day - easy six on the Coal Creek Trail. Just me, prairie dogs, a few other runners, some guy that was fourth in the Olympic Trials Marathon in 2000, seventh in 2004. Care to guess who that is?

PM - easy on the Coal Creek Trail (the other way). It is so obvious that Spring is trying to break through ... and the time change is really helping (although there were bugs out there too!). At times I felt like I was just floating in this run. Other times I was feeling like my legs were made of lead.

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AM - 3 miles with Lucy. 29 degrees. Breakfast - 2 cups of coffee, 2 eggs over easy, pc of toast; Later AM - big cup of joe from Ink. My morning is spent sitting in a relatively uncomfortable chair in a hotel conference room, discussing risk management, and design control when considering FDA medical devices. To keep busy, I do some other operational data crunching during the session.

Mid day - 6 miles, out west on Coal Creek trail and to the roads west of Superior. 23 out, 22 back. Easy. 70 degrees. Yes, that is a 40 degree swing. And yes, that is spring in Colorado. Ran a good deal of it shirtless. Again, at times I was floating, feeling great. And then almost turning on a dime, I'd feel heavy legged and tired. I imagine this is just the joy of a load of good miles. My afternoon was much like my morning. Sucked on a few Jolly Ranchers to promote tooth decay. They brought in an afternoon snack of chocolate chip cookies. I had a few. They were ridiculously soft - almost like dough. Very nice in the mouth. Less so in the stomach. I paid for this on the PM run when I "un-enjoyed" them. If you need to ask, you don't want to know.

PM - 6 miles on the Coal Creek again before heading home. 65 degrees and a breeze picking up out of the west. I was definitely begining to feel the fatigue of some miles here at the end of this run, even though it was easy. Back to the house and TZ headed out to class. The kids and I did pasta. TWK is out here this week, and apparently he enjoyed the CC trail as well. After dinner, I had some almonds and a Pacifico.

Today puts me at well over 100 miles (107 I think) for the last seven days. I think this is a seven day high for me. That feels good. I don't feel like I am fully redlining it, as I am breaking up the mileage into manageable chunks. I can imagine the 120 mile week. But this ain't no walk in the park for me either. I look at days and week like this and can't help but reflect that at one point the 100 mile week seemed so unnecessary for what I wanted to do. And why not? I was doing what I wanted to do with 50 mile weeks. It is odd. I could not run this much when I was 18. But I could run closer to 2 minutes for the half then.

I enjoyed JK's post today - essentially about the apparent monotony of training. I love that life. One day of training does not make you. One bad day does not break you. Live your life unlike anyone today so that you can live your life unlike anyone tomorrow.

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From jtshad on Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 16:27:41

As always, a very thought provoking post by George! Good job on the mileage. Did you get into Pikes Peak?

From George on Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 16:33:25

Mr jtshad ...

First - sorry, have not cross posted over to your stuff as late.

Second - I don't have to register for Pikes today as I got lucky to get into the top ten last year. I have until mid April to declare.

GZ

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Slept hard last night. Again, I had plans to wake up early and get some miles in but the gravity around my bed at 5AM was significantly greater than usual. It is easy for me to validate the need for more sleep, and how it is truly a good thing. It felt good to not get up until 6:30. Mid day - I got out to the Davidson for a real easy seven. About half way in, my left hammie began to sing a bit as it were going to lock up, up in where it connects to my glute. I avoided that, but it freaked me out a bit and so I kept the run even easier than typical. PM - I got out to the Davidson again for an easy five. The winds had picked up at a pretty good clip. Again, I kept it easy.

I am definitely playing a bit on edge city here with the volume ... which is good in some regards, but I need to be a bit careful too. My Achilles is singing, the hammie gave me a warning today, and the ab thing continues to bug me (side note - I am begining to wonder if my abdominal thing is not diastasis recti but maybe Gilmore's groin. There appears to be a lot of stuff on this on that evil board). I know that for some the 100 mile week is not a big deal, but it is new to me. More concerning than my body yelling at me is that I am getting signs in my head that I am on the edge - a bit less mentally focused, irratable (although talking about the FDA for the last three days at work might be contributing to that). I am going to try to strike the balance of being careful and managing myself to get used to this load. I need to do that to be successful.

Today's picture, in the spirit of thinking of those folks registering today (if you are reading this, you ought to get in! JV - glad to hear you made it!) ... this is a shot I took on the day of the Ascent last year. And yes, it is a picture of a hose. And yes, it is a picture looking down the mountain. This hose runs from the Summit House at the top of the mountain, to an aide station (I think at about 1.5 miles to go ... which means nothing in terms of mile splits really other than you have way more time still to go up than you like). A few things about this aide station: 1.) the water tastes like a hose. 2.) the Gatorade tastes like a hose 3.) some nice person has the task of hauling this hose out there before the race and after the race 4.) the difference in water pressure (in hydrology terms, called head) is so significant, this hose is not actually hooked up to a spigot at the Summit House - but rather is siphoned down from a tub.

 

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Mid day - 6, real easy.
PM - got out with TWK, headed west into the breeze on the way out, tail wind on the way back.  Yapped about work, training, patience, and ... stuff.  Easy miles, they flew by.  I tacked on a few more on the end.  All easy. 

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From dave holt on Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 21:18:23

Some days that's what it's all about - running and just shooting the bull! Nice mileage!

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Easy 12 out at Teller Farm. Real easy. My legs are pretty heavy. Wore the electronica to assure the HR did not go about 150. I averaged 143 throughout. Pace was around 8, slower on the ups. Last ten days have been 144 miles.

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When discussing training with Lucho, he has used the term "bomb proof." It is an interesting choice of words. They describe being so fit, so strong, that come race day, whatever the course, your body, the day throws at you - you are ready. Part of the reason why I find it interesting is because Scott Elliott, who I am pretty sure has never met Lucho uses the term "bullet proof" in the same context. Two guys, both driven, methodical, focused, never met and nearly the same terms.

And so the way you become bomb - bullet proof is to bomb yourself with long runs, tempo runs, aerobic work, anaerobic work, core work, intervals, hill sessions ... all so that come your race day, you can drop bombs on the competition, your goals, and yourself and get to that next level - whatever that is for you.

For the last 11 days, I have been dropping a bit of a bomb on myself with two concepts: training at a lower HR (and hence a slower pace) and increasing distance. The first, alone, is not much of a bomb. The second has seemed to have left me reeling. While my mileage is hardly anything of significance when compared to most, it is an increase for me. Up until about Wednesday of this past week, I seemed to be handling it fairly well. Since then, however, my runs have become long, slow(er) drawn out affairs where my body is yelling at me about dull aches and pains from connective tissue, muscle and bone. Some of this is the mileage. Some of this is that I have been "burning it" at the other end a bit with work (yeah, if I got an afternoon nap, I might be doing better), and family.

The goal has been to bomb myself to become stronger, to become more used to the greater mileage, to become more efficient aerobically, and to become more bomb proof. I knew that burying myself in mileage for a few weeks would be a challenge. But today, I am wrecked. My 12 today was a death march of heavy legs, slow running, held together only by will of personally requiring that I get it done. Sometimes you just take a pill of SIU and move on.

But, as training is supposed to do, this reveals a weakness, one of many for me. While in the short term, I may back off the number a bit, I do need up the ante here to become bomb proof. My plans are to run a marathon - not a 5K. And so, I need to make the investment in my bomb shelter with miles, minutes, hours. It is not the only thing I need to invest in, but it is clearly one I have learned needs some work. And all this is good stuff. In fact it is great stuff. I love getting out there and getting to the realization of this stuff.

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10 miles this AM on the treadmill. First five "MAF"ing it (see test results - it went poorly but I am not sure that reflects anything really). Last five, abandoning HR electronica and running, upping the pace for strides. Legs are wood, lungs are fine. 91 on the week.
PM - came back and did nine more (+) on the mill in the evening to round out the week.

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forgot to mention yesterday that while I ran on the treadmill in the AM, and I found it hard to keep my HR down at even slow paces, I had a different experience in the evening. I found that I could get to 7:30 pretty easily and still be well beneath 150. In fact, at the 8 and change paces, my HR was below 140. And I also found that I could push the pace up quite a bit (6:30s) and the HR would hover in the mid 150 range (although as it was a post dinner run, my gut was pretty angry, but that did not seem to effect HR). So this raises a couple of questions. 1.) Could it be that I can MAF at a higher HR (say 155) and still get good results? 2.) Why did I have issues in the AM in keeping my HR low? I am less concerned about the second question however, as a case study of one does not make for a good case. I realize that could be concerned about it: such conditions could reflect a body that is tired, and bordering on being overtrained. I think if I continued to see it, I'd have been really concerned - but the evening session seemed to put that to rest. It could have been that I was dehydrated, was still asleep, or heck, just a bit off. I am going to have to check with some of the MAF-mavens on the topic of the first.


It snowed here last night. We keep getting "whiffs" of Spring but then Winter let's know that it is not done yet. Ah well, better to get the water and avoid an early summer drought. I really appreciate the title of Kerrie's blog - How To Do It All. I am not sure I am ready to write that chapter, but I am trying to figure it out: family, work, training, sleep, diet, live for today, plan for tomorrow ... Our daughter was barfing again today, so that added another challenge that ... well, you just need to roll with (poor kid, she had the flu, got over it and seems to have gotten nailed with it again). In any case, I decided to go easy and short in light of my recent miles. I did an easy six with some short strides. Aerobically, I feel fine. I am definitely dealing with a higher degree of mechanical stress as of late that makes my ability to tap into some of that aerobic power difficult. In other words, my economy sucks right now. I think a combination of the higher miles, my abdominal issue and my lawn mower foot have added up to create a small storm of structural woe for me. In other words, I can feel it. Don't get me wrong - I wanted to dance on the edge a bit. I just wish that went I got to this edge, I did not feel like my wheels were coming off. I want to get back to a point now where I feel like I can jump over buildings, run up walls, and explode off that start line. And to that end, I am going to go find my jump rope now.

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AM - easy five. Dark. Cold. Starry sky. Felt pretty decent. Legs are still a bit heavy, but not too bad.
PM - easy eight. Warmer and windy. Legs were pretty heavy but I was not feeling any soreness or structural concerns.

Dave M has started a blog. For folks who have never heard of Dave, he is a regular super hero between what he does on roads, trails, ice, rock ... in addition to Dave giving Matt a run for his money in the downhill race last year (literally), I personally have seen Dave run from Chautauqua Ranger Cottage to the base of the Second Flatiron, free scramble up the Flatiron, run to near the base of the third, free scramble up that and then run back down to the cottage. Under 40 minutes! Those Minions are nuts!


I did a little experiment at work today - I tried to avoid sitting down at all. In other words, I tried to stay on my feet as much as possible. I did this to see if it would make me feel any better with my general stiffness I have had in my hammie / glute and abdominal issue. I know it made me more aware of how I was ... being ... and so it made me drink more water, do some light stretching periodically, calf raises, etc. My co-workers, who were not aware of this experiment, were wondering why I stood in all their meetings, but I am a bit used to odd looks ("nice shorts!", "You ran how far?", "why do you shave your head?" "why are you standing up?"). I think I sat for about a half an hour all day, whereas I normally sit for close to seven hours all day. So day one results? My butt did not hurt. My feet did. Seriously, it seems to have stretched my hamstrings out a but more, made me more aware of how I am moving. I will look to repeat this experiment some more.

Additionally, I am trying to drop my refined sugar take. Generally speaking, I think it is not bad, but I hardly think it is great. Being a coffee drinker, I have often loaded up my java with the white stuff. This past week I have gone to artificial sweetners - yeah, I know, hardly much better but a small step forward. I am also going to try to back off the PB and J ... that stuff seems a bit loaded with refined sugars.

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AM - got out early for some easy miles with Lucy.
PM - met up with JV for some running. Gorgeous day for running. We ran the so called "Father, Son, Holy Ghost" route over Red Rocks, the lower Sanitas trail and then the connector over to Lee Hill. We ran it easy but my HR jumped up a few times. I had to not care. It was great to be outside, on a great day, running some hills with a great guy, shooting the breeze on training, our dreams on Pikes, our fears on Pikes, what people are doing for training, MAF, crazy runs we want to do, seeing that guy who runs around in Boulder in a fur bikini (seriously, that was one of the most jacked things Jeff and I ever saw on a run) and the like. It was great. My legs turned heavy towards the end of this run when we circled back on the Wonderlake Trail but not too bad. I had a little time in before I met Jeff and so I was out there for about 90 minutes. With the climbs, I am guesstimating it at 10 miles but I will double check on a map site later. Jeff - thanks man - you are right we do need to do that more often than once a month!


I continued my experiment today of doing more standing than sitting. My co-workers are starting to question me about it. I have put one of my monitors on a bookshelf (so that it is more eye level) and my laptop on a milk crate (so essentially raising my desk by a foot). I was not as aggressive about it as yesterday, but still erring more on the side of standing that sitting. I know this: sitting for long periods of time makes me pretty uncomfortable these days - mostly in my glute - hammie on my right side (piriformis perhaps). I have a bar stool at my desk that I have used as a second chair for guests that I have been leaning back on when I want to get off my feet a bit. Again, this is a ridiculous experiment, but ... then again running up and down mountains is ridiculous.

I realize that I have been running easy now for a couple of weeks. In fact, I am pretty certain the last "hard" running I did was back on February 28 (treadmill, 2 miles in 10 followed by sets of minute on and minute off). In this stretch of mileage building, and MAF training, I have often felt like poop. Tired. Slow. Heavy legged. There have been, I confess, multiple times where my motivation has come into question, and I wonder if I am going to do that race in August after all. But I have, more or less have worked through. While my legs are still a bit heavy I think I am begining to come out of that a bit. There have been a couple of times where I can feel, underneath this shell of dead legs that I can begin to rip it. And then I get tired again. Ah well, soon enough.

JV mentioned that the high trails are still pretty messy with snow, mud and ice. I am looking to generally avoid that stuff this year and jump the trails when they are more clear. That stuff can be fun, but I have become convinced that training through that stuff is less productive than helpful. Sure, it is uphill and trail. But it is snow covered trail, and that is not what I am racing on. With folks begining to shave their beards, it won't be long until we have clear trails. Soon enough.

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I did not get out until the later afternoon, and by then the winds had picked up (they were 22mph on the Davidson Mesa).  Oh well.  I finally felt like I was getting some of my bounce back today.  I almost had that float feeling again while running rather than that trudge feeling.  Almost.  Not quite but almost.  I ran for about 3.5 before I got to a park, jumped rope for about five minutes and then took off my shoes and did some grass strides (so barefoot running for about a mile).  These were really short, just quick little bursts at maybe five minute pace but only for 10-20 seconds.  If fresh, I know I can dig a heck of a lot more than that but I am still just getting my legs back from last week.   Another five of jumping rope and then ran back for another 4.5.
 
Various other tidbits ... I picked up a pair of Brooks Adrenaline yesterday (and so now they have 17 miles)... as of today I have 900 miles on the year.  Just a number I realize, and not a large one for some folks who probably had that amount before the end of February.  For me, there is a bit of significance.  In HS, we had a summer club called the 750 club.  If you could run 750 miles between June 1 and August 31 you got your name on some plaque on the gym wall (that is supposedly still there).  There were something like 15-20 guys on it.  I never got on it.  Putting together 60+ mile weeks for an entire summer seemed like something I could do but would take a lot of effort and concentration.  And at that time, it probably would.  Now, in about a similar period, I am looking to join the 1000 mile club (by the end of March).  It only took me 20 years past high school to do it (and my HS reunion is next week, 20 years, although it is closer to 21 years ... I won't be there).

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If memory serves me correct, today is the first day of Spring. Even if it is not, there was significant evidence that Spring had arrived given that my office represented a morgue today (hardly one there due to basketball games, the holiday, and that spring break starts for a lot of folks next week), there were 20+ mph winds on the Davidson, and the temps were in the 60s. I got out with Lucy in the AM. Again, cold, dark, starry sky. As the sun rose, we got to see a horned owl sitting on a telephone pole. I have seen this owl dozens of times over the years. Well, maybe not this owl, but it does appear to be a place where I see an owl a lot. This picture is not mine, but it is essentially what we saw. The owl was much more interested in Lucy than me and Lucy had absolutely no clue that it was being sized up (I'd take Lucy in a match if went there though).
In the PM, I wanted to duck the wind so I headed to Chautauqua. As you border up against the Flatirons, you can often hide in the lee of the hills and the trees and avoid the winds. I went over Flagstaff easy (actually keeping HR below 153). The trail up was clear of snow nearly the entire way, except near the end. There was some mud, but hardly anything to be concerned about. I took the backside down (Rangeview) down to Gregory and then started the climb up Green. This trail, on the northside of Green, was much more packed in with snow and ice. It was okay footing on the way up. I was not using studs, and I really did not need them ... on the way up! I cut over onto the Greenman trail as that looked to be a little more clear. Through here was scattered packed snow, ice and mud but not really a big deal. I swung back west towards Green at the connector. After a few minutes of climbing the gentle grade, it was all snow. Normally, I would have trudged on up to the top, but I decided I did not want to fight the psuedo-packed, psuedo melted snow, pseudo ice conditions and turned back. And then, it started snowing on me! It only lasted a few minutes but the white stuff was definitely falling for a few minutes there. I came back down the Saddle. This was all packed ice. I even took the full on digger on a sheet of ice (just below where the old social trail heads up the NW ridge) where my feet went straight out in front of me and I landed right on my back / butt. I laid there for a minute taking stock to determine if anything was in disarray but as it turned out, I was fine. I finished the trudge back to Chautauqua, carefully, and it actually got pretty clear again at the lower elevations.

There is a lot I have been reading in Noakes book that I don't like. Last night I stumbled on several passages about the potential length of a competitive runner's career. I will try to explain it briefly here, but realize I am trying sum up in a quick paragraph what he covers in several pages over different chapters. We all understand that we all slow with time, but he went further than - providing both some degree of scientific and anecdotal evidence that the body can only handle competitive stresses for so many years (15-20). Furthermore, he provided examples where folks who trained competitively at a younger age (and hence through such a length window) were less competitive than those who took up endurance sport at an older age. So a person who takes up marathoning at the age of 40 is more likely to be competitive than the guy who started at 20 when they both reach 50. In fact, there was evidence that even though the longer lived competitive athlete could increase his training volume significantly, he would begin to realize lesser results at a more accelerated rate than than the athlete who was new to the sport and training less ... there are various scientific theories as to why this occurs. Okay, so why does that irk me? This is harder to explain ... and comes across in a series of non objective, organized thoughts ... In short, I want to play, run, jump, swim, do freaking handstands the rest of my life. Unsolicited, I have wondered if training to be competitive will actually hinder this in my later years. Part of me does not want to think about this - how my actions today effect my actions not just tomorrow but in the years and decades to come. And hence, my thoughts on it now are scattered, and hardly articulate. Will all this training make it so that I cannot walk straight in 40 years? (yeah, stupid paranoid thought but it has come to mind). It appears that while heavy training now may not hinder my ability to do those things outright, it might hinder my ability to do those things competitively. And so I have to ask myself if I really give a crap about what Noakes proposes in this regard. He also addresses this issue on several non scientific fronts ... including if it makes sense for older folks to chase the dreams of children when they are no longer children. I don't know the answers for me yet, and for my training for right now it really does not matter.

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I got out for a jaunt with Lucy in the AM, doing the typical 3 mile out and back. The plan at that point was to get out in the afternoon and get another hour in to round the day out. I started the second run with KZ on the bike next to me. All day I had felt tired, blah ... heck, I even took a nap mid day. I hardly ever take naps. My tiredness showed again on this PM run. I gave it the two mile rule to see if it would shake out and it didn't, so and I called it. Headed back to the house, hit the showers, had a beer and made dinner.


A lot of my runs over the last couple of weeks have been like this. I have chalked it up to bouncing back from some of the mileage I have been doing. I might just need to get my head around a small break for a bit. The in my head issue is that I feel I need to be doing something everyday to improve - and I need to realize that rest days, particularly when I am 20+ weeks out from my peak event, are part of that improvement. Once I get to rationalizing that, I don't feel bad for taking time off, but more for taking so damn long to figure it out. I had intended to make the trek for the MAF test with TL tomorrow, but in light of how I am feeling, and the expected craziness of tomorrow AM - I am now not expecting to go.

For dinner, I made "Pan Dos" in the bread machine (I am a bit crazy about making bread machine breads). This is a recipie that I got from a college buddy's Mom. She was first generation Portugese and made this bread all the time. It is a sweet bread, but it is a bread - not a cake. I modified the recipie so that it could fit into my bread machine (her recipie would make about 3 bread machine double batches!). TZ liked it enough that she had me make another batch that we stopped after the kneading - so that we could make braids out if it instead. Also made a broch-ricot pasta (one of KZ's favorites). Topped it off with a Hazed and Infused (for me, not the kiddos).

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I knew pretty early I was going to take today off. The day was busy with holiday events, including the kids looking for eggs, prepping food for a meal with family and friends, collecting with them in the afternoon. I'd be lying however if I said I did not think about doing the MAF test today. I would have like to have, particularly to avoid the label that Kerrie has appropriately dropped on me ;-). But the need for the rest, the family events made it pretty easy to take a break today from running. And yeah, the snow that showed up last night (that had completely vanished by this evening) made it easier to not get up for that 0730 run. But, I would have like to have seen how I had progressed with MAF training over the last couple of weeks ... I will look to do that soon.

I have been thinking about this whole blogging thing and reminding myself why I do it. It is pretty easy for me to blog when training is going well, or I am racking up some miles. It is harder when I am struggling. I started it as an on line training log, to capture this journey, because I suspect I may want to look on it some day. I also felt that while no one might read it, by putting it in a public forum, it held me accountable to an open standard of what I was doing. Yes, this is just a mental trick ... but it works for me.

This past week was 56 miles on the week. 259 on the month and 916 on the year. I spent 45 minutes in the evening doing light core, and stretching.

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The family is on Spring Break this week so I did not need to drive the kids in. So I biked in. I kept it easy, wandering around on various roads and paths to the office ... looking for various ways I could get off the road and short cut the trip. "Short cuts make for long delays," as I learned once again (damn barb wire fences) It was about a 50 minute spin. HR was b/w 130-151. Ride home was about 40 minutes (a bit more direct and more downhill)

My legs are still significantly tired. As they have been for the last few weeks. Maybe I ought to just race burros ... (seriously, if I could get a Burro, I'd do this in a heartbeat). I had contemplated running anyway, and maybe even MAF testing it today. I found plenty of reasons not too and took advantage of them. I realize that today was not totally rest though. I am debating now if I am being just a plain old wimp with my mileage and my concerns about being tired of if this something I just need to work through, get through a wall. Am I breaking down or breaking through?

I think I may have set myself up as someone who is "anti-MAF." I am not. I am not fully blessing this approach either however. The general thought of MAF is that signficant time is spent doing aerobic work to develop that system exclusively. Over time, you will become more aerobically strong, and be able to work at faster paces while remaining aerobic. I agree with this idea. The part that I have questioned is the need to remain aerobic during the entirety of a base phase. I have been "MAF-izing" for the most part for the last month. I have gone above 150 (a MAF rate) a few times (and one time, way over, when I climbed Sanitas with JV ... 170, but even then we were talking), but rarely over 154 (I think Sanitas was the one time. There have been probably 3 or 4 occasions where I have gone north of 150). Lucho has been kind enough to explain to me that the development of the anaerobic system can compromise the development of the anaerobic system. I think this is the part that I am struggling to get my head around as to why that is true. And if this is true, why is this training approach (MAF) so poorly known amongst distance runners, particularly that of the marathon? I mean, it worked for Mark Allen, how come we don't hear Hudson's gang talking (or name any of your favorite running athletes) about it?


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Early AM - 3 miles, ~7 min pace, groin sore (4), hammies tight (2), otherwise feel fine. Would have brought Lucy but she inhaled a rawhide right before I left so I decided to spare her. Or maybe me.
AM Rode into work, easy spin, mtn bike - 42 minutes. No groin pain whatsoever!

Mid AM ... had a great yap with that guy who is killing it at BS&B. If you ain't reading his stuff, you ought to. This guy is training hard, racing well, and living the life. I noted this in our "conversation ... I said:" I was thinking yesterday that I might be thinking too much about my training ... and hence I need to take a bit of the so called caveman approach for a bit ... run more, not give a crap about HR gear, run fast when I want, run slow when I want, run mountains, etc ... I have had a bit of a wash in March: good mileage for a bit, bad mileage for a bit ... nothing really pushing the pace. Not a big deal in the grand scheme as I am 21 weeks out (more of an issue in my head rather than in race preparedness), but I need to get on the horse again ...
Totally unrelated, someone at work sent me this ... JW, let's form a team!

Mid day - up on the Davidson Mesa. 'nother beaut day. Groin felt a bit better (2), hammies tight (4), and my Ach. was pissed on the left side (screw it, it is always something). 8 miles. My left hammie got increasingly tight as the afternoon wore on (cripes, is this a training blog
More warped music to free (or bend) your mind by ...

PM - end of day rode home. 25 minutes. Zero pain in the groin. When I bike these days, it just feels good. No pain. I can control how much I want I hurt with pace. I used to feel that way when I run, but not lately. Hmm. Might be a message there. Might need to cross train more. Thought about getting out for an other run in the evening, but life prevailed.


Pikes race stuff ... the other day I posted that I think Pikes needs to change registration (long term) to one based on qualifications (graded by age) rather than continuing the practice of allowing anyone who can meet the current standards. Looks like there are some similar musings on Kona by a local tri guy.

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